D wrap for GTK+

Ok guys I lost a lot of work (see my previous post)
probably 30+ hours

my wrap for GTK+ was ready for the first release.
The interest you show when I first let you know
about it was 0 (zero) so if nobody is interested
on the thing probably I will work on it slower.

see the saved screen shots at http://ca.geocities.com/arvmca/

and help me with my compilation problem :(

Ant

"Ant" <Ant_member@pathlink.com> wrote in message news:bgv6c5$1mgf$1@digitaldaemon.com...
> D wrap for GTK+
>
> Ok guys I lost a lot of work (see my previous post)
> probably 30+ hours
>
> my wrap for GTK+ was ready for the first release.
> The interest you show when I first let you know
> about it was 0 (zero) so if nobody is interested
> on the thing probably I will work on it slower.

Things take a bit of time to catch on. I worked on D for a couple years before anyone noticed it <g>.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ant" <Ant_member@pathlink.com>
Newsgroups: D
Sent: Friday, August 08, 2003 4:45 AM
Subject: D wrap for GTK+


> D wrap for GTK+
>
> Ok guys I lost a lot of work (see my previous post)
> probably 30+ hours
>
> my wrap for GTK+ was ready for the first release.
> The interest you show when I first let you know
> about it was 0 (zero) so if nobody is interested
> on the thing probably I will work on it slower.

you should do it for your own  personal reasons, currently most D ppl seems
to all be reinventing the wheels
I ported a large amount of the win32 headers, produced a templated library
to allow automatic dll function importing, got directx working from D
(someone else metioned that they had direct3d working but I've not heard any
more for a while) I even tried to get the ppl working on win32 wrappers etc
to co-operate but that was a fruitless task so resigned myself to continuing
my attempts to break the compiler with my bad coding (especially whilst
porting C files) and trying to get a 10 line "this breaks the compiler" to
post to Walter can be as much of a task as the 200K that was breaking it was
to write in the first place.

had I seem the post I would have been interested to see if I could use it to interface to the win32 gtk that comes with gimp 4 win32. have you put your sources online ?

as for your other problems, import A then B, you did not supply any test files that exibited the problem, I think I like others tend to ignore posts like that because we've got our own set of "problem" code issues and don't want to spent the time trying to reproduce an error to save someone else doing some work.

if you post simple examples that show up your problems the usually I'll try them out and see if I can fix them, currently I can only build win32 D apps, tried to put linux dmd onto a dlxlinux running under bochs but that did not work (for several reasons) the redhat 60 images failed to run. (anyone got a space vmware key ?)

> see the saved screen shots at http://ca.geocities.com/arvmca/
>
> and help me with my compilation problem :(
>
> Ant
>

Mike Wynn wrote:
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ant" <Ant_member@pathlink.com>
> Newsgroups: D
> Sent: Friday, August 08, 2003 4:45 AM
> Subject: D wrap for GTK+
> 
> 
> 
>>D wrap for GTK+
>>
>>Ok guys I lost a lot of work (see my previous post)
>>probably 30+ hours
>>
>>my wrap for GTK+ was ready for the first release.
>>The interest you show when I first let you know
>>about it was 0 (zero) so if nobody is interested
>>on the thing probably I will work on it slower.
> 
> 
> you should do it for your own  personal reasons, currently most D ppl seems
> to all be reinventing the wheels
> I ported a large amount of the win32 headers, produced a templated library
> to allow automatic dll function importing, got directx working from D
> (someone else metioned that they had direct3d working but I've not heard any
> more for a while) I even tried to get the ppl working on win32 wrappers etc
> to co-operate but that was a fruitless task so resigned myself to continuing
> my attempts to break the compiler with my bad coding (especially whilst
> porting C files) and trying to get a 10 line "this breaks the compiler" to
> post to Walter can be as much of a task as the 200K that was breaking it was
> to write in the first place.

Do you have a website?

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Stephan Wienczny" <wienczny@web.de>
Newsgroups: D
Sent: Friday, August 08, 2003 10:37 AM
Subject: Re: D wrap for GTK+


> > you should do it for your own  personal reasons, currently most D ppl
seems
> > to all be reinventing the wheels
> > I ported a large amount of the win32 headers, produced a templated
library
> > to allow automatic dll function importing, got directx working from D (someone else metioned that they had direct3d working but I've not heard
any
> > more for a while) I even tried to get the ppl working on win32 wrappers
etc
> > to co-operate but that was a fruitless task so resigned myself to
continuing
> > my attempts to break the compiler with my bad coding (especially whilst porting C files) and trying to get a 10 line "this breaks the compiler"
to
> > post to Walter can be as much of a task as the 200K that was breaking it
was
> > to write in the first place.
>
> Do you have a website?
>
my latest code was put onto
http://www.geocities.com/one_mad_alien/dcom_not_dcom.html
old stuff on http://www.l8night.co.uk/mwynn/d/   [no ftp at present to
update it]

Ant wrote:
> D wrap for GTK+
> 
> Ok guys I lost a lot of work (see my previous post)
> probably 30+ hours
> 
> my wrap for GTK+ was ready for the first release.
> The interest you show when I first let you know
> about it was 0 (zero) so if nobody is interested
> on the thing probably I will work on it slower.
> 
> see the saved screen shots at
> http://ca.geocities.com/arvmca/
> 
> and help me with my compilation problem :( 
> 
> Ant
> 
> 

Hi, Ant.

I'm very interested in the GTK+ wrapper.  We use GTK+ for GUI development under Linux, and MFC under Windows.  Not only is GTK+ more easily imported into D than MFC, but it has a higher likelyhood of being truely portable.  And, it's open source.

There's been some talk about having a common site for D projects.  If this happens, I'd suggest putting it up there.  I might even get talked into contributing a little, assuming you want additional coders.

Bill

In article <bgvb77$1r7l$1@digitaldaemon.com>, Mike Wynn says...

>you should do it for your own  personal reasons,

Hey! I said slower (I'm prety frustraded right now,
I'm faccing the entire weekend repeting my work from last weekend,
I've only myself to blame...)

>I ported a large amount of the win32

I can't use that OS, I use it only when I'm getting paid for it.

>as for your other problems, import A then B, you did not supply any test files that exibited the problem

I don't want anybody to work on my problems, I was hopping that someone knew what it is. As I said I fixed it 2 days ago but almost by accident and I still don't understand it.

thanks for your reply (and the others)

"Ant" <Ant_member@pathlink.com> wrote in message news:bh0ebr$2s58$1@digitaldaemon.com...
> In article <bgvb77$1r7l$1@digitaldaemon.com>, Mike Wynn says...
>
> >you should do it for your own  personal reasons,
>
> Hey! I said slower (I'm prety frustraded right now,
> I'm faccing the entire weekend repeting my work from last weekend,
> I've only myself to blame...)
>
I got the impression that you had expected ppl to be excited that you'd done
something for them, and then upset that no-one was taking any notice.
how much of the GTK bindings did you get done, I would be very interested in
seeing what you have so I can get some win32 GTK bindings working, as I
intend to revisit the SWT (IBM's Java gui layer used on Eclipse) and see if
I can produce a D win32+GTK port of SWT (seems to me to be the better of the
bunch of GUI libs I've used/read through) [or SWT style lib anyhow]

> >I ported a large amount of the win32
> I can't use that OS, I use it only when I'm getting paid for it.
the D linux is a new inclusion (there was DLI first) so I started on win32. I'd runing D under rather be doing FreeBSD or BeOS, but only have one PC at present and for the same reasons (work) I have to have Win2K on it.

>
> >as for your other problems, import A then B, you did not supply any test files that exibited the problem
>
> I don't want anybody to work on my problems, I was hopping that someone knew what it is. As I said I fixed it 2 days ago but almost by accident and I still don't understand it.
how can we know what the problem was without an example to work from, and if you don't want ppl to work on your problems don't post them! you could have posted the fix or at least a "this is what I've done is this the D way to solve problem X" incase it is a compiler of lang issue with nested module inclued and/or forward references (may be a symbol clash, they cause all manner of unexpected error messages, especialy if you have someother code error in another inluded module seemingly due to the D compilers attempts to recover from an error and correctly report later errors (rather then stoping at the first error))

anyway best of luck getting GTK bindings working if you get any problems I've become quite adept at porting C headers and working out what the more obscure D error msgs are caused by. (partly ported C files are mainly to blame for the extensive number of times I've crashed the compiler).

(What happened to my post? - I'll try again)

In article <bh0gn5$2ude$1@digitaldaemon.com>, Mike Wynn says...
>

>how much of the GTK bindings did you get done,

Almost all widgets have a farly good/complete implementation,
and the most common callbacks are implement through listener interfaces.
I'm missing only some obscure widgets (like the rulers that
are very specific) and the TreeView doesn't work properly.
(The oddest thing is that I can't create a valid GValue, must be some
ridiculous simple problem, probably that's was wrong with the TreeView)

> I would be very interested in
>seeing what you have so I can get some win32 GTK bindings working,

I believe that if you have GTK setup for windows you need only to compile DUI, maybe with small changes (but what do I know of windows development?...)

The next think I'll do on this project is to post it on the web, at very least it will be a safer backup.

> as I
>intend to revisit the SWT (IBM's Java gui layer used on Eclipse) and see if I can produce a D win32+GTK port of SWT

I'm very suspicious of SWT, I use eclipse both at work (w2k) and at home
(Linux) and the linux version is almost unusable because it's too slow,
it might be the java VM and it got much better with GTK 2.2.2 (from 1.2).

>how can we know what the problem was without an example to work from,

sorry, I though the description was good enough.
Anyway I need to reproduce it in a simpler setting so I can try to understant
what's going on. I'll post that if I get stuck.

>you don't want ppl to work on your problems don't post them!

just trying to say that I will work on it. My idea was if someone already
had the same problem perhaps could share the info.
(sorry if I don't express myself correctly)

>anyway best of luck getting GTK bindings working if you get any problems I've become quite adept at porting C headers

Do you have any automation for it?
(in D, portable to Linux)
I see that on the D todo list.
I thought about creating one but did every thing by hand.
Just copy a minimum set of structs,
most of the public functions declarations and puting "extern (C)"
the fewer things you have from GTK the easyer
to upgrade to new releases of it.

> and working out what the more
>obscure D error msgs are caused by. (partly ported C files are mainly to blame for the extensive number of times I've crashed the compiler).
>
>

"Mike Wynn" <mike.wynn@l8night.co.uk> wrote in message news:bgvs46$2ago$1@digitaldaemon.com...
> my latest code was put onto
> http://www.geocities.com/one_mad_alien/dcom_not_dcom.html
> old stuff on http://www.l8night.co.uk/mwynn/d/   [no ftp at present to
> update it]

You gotta keep me up to date on these links so I can put them in www.digitalmars.com/d/dlinks.html!