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June 01, 2013 [Issue 10226] New: core.simd bad codegen | ||||
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http://d.puremagic.com/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=10226 Summary: core.simd bad codegen Product: D Version: D2 Platform: All OS/Version: All Status: NEW Severity: normal Priority: P2 Component: DMD AssignedTo: nobody@puremagic.com ReportedBy: code@benjamin-thaut.de --- Comment #0 from Benjamin Thaut <code@benjamin-thaut.de> 2013-06-01 03:12:12 PDT --- The following testcode: import core.simd; import std.stdio; void main(string[] args) { float[] value1 = [1.0f, 2.0f, 3.0f, 4.0f]; float4 result = __simd(XMM.LODAPS, *cast(float4*)value1.ptr); result = __simd(XMM.ADDPS, result, result); __simd_sto(XMM.STOAPS, *cast(float4*)value1.ptr, result); writefln("%s", value1); } Will produce the following assembly 1 mov rax,qword ptr [rbp-68h] 2 movaps xmm0,xmmword ptr [rax] 3 movaps xmmword ptr [rbp-60h],xmm0 4 movdqa xmm0,xmmword ptr [rbp-60h] 5 addps xmm0,xmmword ptr [rbp-60h] 6 movaps xmmword ptr [rbp-60h],xmm0 7 movdqa xmm0,xmmword ptr [rbp-60h] 8 mov rax,qword ptr [rbp-68h] 9 movaps xmmword ptr [rax],xmm0 The instructions 3 and 4 are completely useless, as well as the instructions 6 and 7. Instruction 8 has no effect because RAX already contains that value. Ideally the assembly should look as follows: 1 mov rax,qword ptr [rbp-68h] 2 movaps xmm0,xmmword ptr [rax] 5 addps xmm0,xmmword ptr [rbp-60h] 9 movaps xmmword ptr [rax],xmm0 This is a huge problem because SIMD does only start to get effective if you stay within the xmm registers as long as possible. tested with dmd 2.063 -- Configure issuemail: http://d.puremagic.com/issues/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- |
June 01, 2013 [Issue 10226] core.simd bad codegen | ||||
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Posted in reply to Benjamin Thaut | http://d.puremagic.com/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=10226 --- Comment #1 from Benjamin Thaut <code@benjamin-thaut.de> 2013-06-01 03:13:40 PDT --- Small correction, ideal assembly should look like this: 1 mov rax,qword ptr [rbp-68h] 2 movaps xmm0,xmmword ptr [rax] 5 addps xmm0,xmm0 9 movaps xmmword ptr [rax],xmm0 Instruction 5 should use a xmm register as well and not add from memory. -- Configure issuemail: http://d.puremagic.com/issues/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- |
June 03, 2013 [Issue 10226] core.simd bad codegen | ||||
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Posted in reply to Benjamin Thaut | http://d.puremagic.com/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=10226 Manu <turkeyman@gmail.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |turkeyman@gmail.com --- Comment #2 from Manu <turkeyman@gmail.com> 2013-06-03 03:43:34 PDT --- (In reply to comment #1) > Small correction, ideal assembly should look like this: > > 1 mov rax,qword ptr [rbp-68h] > 2 movaps xmm0,xmmword ptr [rax] > 5 addps xmm0,xmm0 > 9 movaps xmmword ptr [rax],xmm0 > > Instruction 5 should use a xmm register as well and not add from memory. Interesting. I haven't scrutinised DMD's codegen as much as GDC yet. I've been working on the std.simd API mostly against GDC, and once I'm happy with that, I'll be logging codegen bugs in DMD accordingly. What do you get if you do: float4 result = [1,2,3,4]; result = __simd(XMM.ADDPS, result, result); writefln("%s", result.array); Why do you need to issue the loads and stores explicitly? -- Configure issuemail: http://d.puremagic.com/issues/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- |
June 03, 2013 [Issue 10226] core.simd bad codegen | ||||
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Posted in reply to Benjamin Thaut | http://d.puremagic.com/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=10226 --- Comment #3 from Benjamin Thaut <code@benjamin-thaut.de> 2013-06-03 05:37:15 PDT --- (In reply to comment #2) > (In reply to comment #1) > > Small correction, ideal assembly should look like this: > > > > 1 mov rax,qword ptr [rbp-68h] > > 2 movaps xmm0,xmmword ptr [rax] > > 5 addps xmm0,xmm0 > > 9 movaps xmmword ptr [rax],xmm0 > > > > Instruction 5 should use a xmm register as well and not add from memory. > > Interesting. I haven't scrutinised DMD's codegen as much as GDC yet. > I've been working on the std.simd API mostly against GDC, and once I'm happy > with that, I'll be logging codegen bugs in DMD accordingly. > > What do you get if you do: > > float4 result = [1,2,3,4]; > result = __simd(XMM.ADDPS, result, result); > writefln("%s", result.array); > > Why do you need to issue the loads and stores explicitly? On modern processors unaligned loads come at almost no penalty, and it is a lot easier to use unaligned loads within a highly optimized functions compared to making all the data in the whole project 16 byte aligned and use aligned loads. -- Configure issuemail: http://d.puremagic.com/issues/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- |
June 03, 2013 [Issue 10226] core.simd bad codegen | ||||
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Posted in reply to Benjamin Thaut | http://d.puremagic.com/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=10226 --- Comment #4 from Manu <turkeyman@gmail.com> 2013-06-03 08:42:51 PDT --- (In reply to comment #3) > (In reply to comment #2) > > (In reply to comment #1) > > > Small correction, ideal assembly should look like this: > > > > > > 1 mov rax,qword ptr [rbp-68h] > > > 2 movaps xmm0,xmmword ptr [rax] > > > 5 addps xmm0,xmm0 > > > 9 movaps xmmword ptr [rax],xmm0 > > > > > > Instruction 5 should use a xmm register as well and not add from memory. > > > > Interesting. I haven't scrutinised DMD's codegen as much as GDC yet. > > I've been working on the std.simd API mostly against GDC, and once I'm happy > > with that, I'll be logging codegen bugs in DMD accordingly. > > > > What do you get if you do: > > > > float4 result = [1,2,3,4]; > > result = __simd(XMM.ADDPS, result, result); > > writefln("%s", result.array); > > > > Why do you need to issue the loads and stores explicitly? > > On modern processors unaligned loads come at almost no penalty, and it is a lot easier to use unaligned loads within a highly optimized functions compared to making all the data in the whole project 16 byte aligned and use aligned loads. Umm, What? This has nothing to do with alignment... where did that come from? Your issue is the codegen right? You expect the codegen to be what you pasted below, and I agree. I'm suggesting you remove the explicit load/store and let the compiler generate them. What do you get using the code I suggest? -- Configure issuemail: http://d.puremagic.com/issues/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- |
June 03, 2013 [Issue 10226] core.simd bad codegen | ||||
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Posted in reply to Benjamin Thaut | http://d.puremagic.com/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=10226 bearophile_hugs@eml.cc changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |bearophile_hugs@eml.cc --- Comment #5 from bearophile_hugs@eml.cc 2013-06-03 09:46:24 PDT --- (In reply to comment #3) > On modern processors unaligned loads come at almost no penalty, and it is a lot easier to use unaligned loads within a highly optimized functions compared to making all the data in the whole project 16 byte aligned and use aligned loads. If this is true then is it worth reducing the smallest allocation size of the D garbage collector from 16 bytes to 8 bytes and reduce the alignment to 8 bytes? This saves some memory when you allocate many small objects, like small tree nodes. -- Configure issuemail: http://d.puremagic.com/issues/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- |
June 03, 2013 [Issue 10226] core.simd bad codegen | ||||
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Posted in reply to Benjamin Thaut | http://d.puremagic.com/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=10226 --- Comment #6 from Benjamin Thaut <code@benjamin-thaut.de> 2013-06-03 10:07:12 PDT --- Reducing alignment on all allocations to 8 byte is not a good idea. When I said recent processors I meant i7 ivy bridge. On older processors this still has a significant performance impact. Initially the manual load and store operation were unaligned, but as of this bug http://d.puremagic.com/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=10225 I had to replace them with aligned loads and stores for the time beeing. But this doesn't help that when the unaligned store gets fixed, the generated code will be equally bad as when using aligned operations. -- Configure issuemail: http://d.puremagic.com/issues/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- |
June 03, 2013 [Issue 10226] core.simd bad codegen | ||||
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Posted in reply to Benjamin Thaut | http://d.puremagic.com/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=10226 --- Comment #7 from Manu <turkeyman@gmail.com> 2013-06-03 16:21:54 PDT --- (In reply to comment #6) > Reducing alignment on all allocations to 8 byte is not a good idea. When I said > recent processors I meant i7 ivy bridge. On older processors this still has a > significant performance impact. Initially the manual load and store operation > were unaligned, but as of this bug > http://d.puremagic.com/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=10225 > I had to replace them with aligned loads and stores for the time beeing. But > this doesn't help that when the unaligned store gets fixed, the generated code > will be equally bad as when using aligned operations. Okay, I see. It occurred to me that maybe DMD promoted that movups in your other bug to a movaps because it was able to detect that the source was always aligned? (I have no hard reason to believe that, but just a thought. Walter?) Yeah it looks kinda like the compiler is treating the mov*ps opcodes like a typical add or something, and the compiler is generating typical register allocation around the opcodes which performs explicit register allocation ;) My guess is the compiler doesn't actually understand what the mov*ps (and friends) opcodes do, and therefore erroneously tries to helpfully configure a register state to execute them ;) What flags are you building with? If it's building un-optimised or in some debug mode, the extra mov's could be to try and keep stack synchronisation. -- Configure issuemail: http://d.puremagic.com/issues/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- |
June 04, 2013 [Issue 10226] core.simd bad codegen | ||||
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Posted in reply to Benjamin Thaut | http://d.puremagic.com/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=10226 --- Comment #8 from Benjamin Thaut <code@benjamin-thaut.de> 2013-06-03 22:36:41 PDT --- Building with debug symbols gives a ICE ;-) I'm building with -release -O -inline -- Configure issuemail: http://d.puremagic.com/issues/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- |
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