February 09, 2004
Andrew Edwards wrote:

>
> Cool, I'm on it!
> Quick question, I installed the shell extensions but it doesn't come with a grep implemantation. Know where I can find one already implemented for win32?
>
fart-it on sourceforge is like grep.

-- 
-Anderson: http://badmama.com.au/~anderson/
February 14, 2004
As promised: comments embedded.

J C Calvarese wrote:
> Please don't take this the wrong way. I want to help.

Don't worry about it. I asked for your advice and am prepared to accept and deal with whatever you can send my way.

> What are your skills right now?
> We can't give your a direction if we don't know your current position.

Apart from two C++ classes (Intro to Programming [1994] and Data Structures [2003]) I have no practical experience in programming. I am a logistician in the Marine Corps and my job does not include nor provide many opportunities programming. My programming accomplishments include a program that downloads and extracts a SFX file from the internet and compiling the Mersenne Twister RNG in D, hardly much to be proud of.

> Where are you trying to go?
> We can't give your directions if we don't the destination.
> 

I am tying to gain practical programming experience. Maybe I should focus more on Operating System implementations because this is where I would like to do most of my work; However, I would like to gain some experience in building secure databases driven programs to assist in modernizing some of the archaic programs we continue to use in the Corps.

> What do you want to do?

Where do I want to go? My experience does not even allow for me to get on the path to my ultimate destination however I would like to implement my own Operating System. For now I'm simply trying to gain some programming experience.

> 
> You're not asking too much; you're asking too little. :)
> 

Wish I knew the appropriate questions to ask. I would be much more vigilant toward seeking answers. It can be a little disconcerting to seek advice about a subject which you are completely unfamiliar with. Hopefully with practice, experience will prevail.

> As as you probably already know (since I seem to mention this weekly), I've created some examples, http://jcc_7.tripod.com/d/tutor/. They're pretty simple (because I'm no D guru yet), but they might help a beginner. I try to add to them often and I know there needs to be a lot more commentary, but it's better than nothing.

I know and have used played with some of them. Thanks!

> If you need something more sophisiticated, ask a specific question in this newsgroup. Many here know much.
> 

Soon as I figure out what they are I'll be sure to ask.

Andrew
February 18, 2004
Andrew Edwards wrote:

> As promised: comments embedded.
> 
> J C Calvarese wrote:
> 
>> Please don't take this the wrong way. I want to help.
> 
> 
> Don't worry about it. I asked for your advice and am prepared to accept and deal with whatever you can send my way.
> 
>> What are your skills right now?
>> We can't give your a direction if we don't know your current position.
> 
> 
> Apart from two C++ classes (Intro to Programming [1994] and Data Structures [2003]) I have no practical experience in programming. I am a logistician in the Marine Corps and my job does not include nor provide many opportunities programming. My programming accomplishments include a program that downloads and extracts a SFX file from the internet and compiling the Mersenne Twister RNG in D, hardly much to be proud of.
> 
>> Where are you trying to go?
>> We can't give your directions if we don't the destination.
>>
> 
> I am tying to gain practical programming experience. Maybe I should focus more on Operating System implementations because this is where I would like to do most of my work; However, I would like to gain some experience in building secure databases driven programs to assist in modernizing some of the archaic programs we continue to use in the Corps.

Sounds like fun. I do a lot of database tasks in my job, but I haven't
used D at work much yet.

I'm not sure what you mean by "secure." Do you need something a lot more
sophisticated than password protection? Do you happen to know if Access,
MySQL, or sqlite have the proper security? I'm just curious -- we use MS
Access and Oracle databases at my office.

Since we use Access a lot at work, I've figured out how to do a number of things in ADO and DAO through VBA and VBScript, but D is quite different from VBA/VBScript. I've gotten a port of the ADO interfaces to compile, but I've run into fishy runtime errors. I recently figured out how to embed VBScript in D through a C DLL. It's kind of messy, but I think the concept has some potential. But there has to be an easier way...

I've recently stumbled upon sqlite (http://sqlite.org ) and I think I might be able to do some cool stuff with it.  It has a friendly license (public domain), also. Burton Radons developed some D bindings to work with it a while back (http://www.opend.org/sqlite/index.html). I've downloaded some related binaries the sqlite website and they seemed fairly usable to me.

>> What do you want to do?
> 
> 
> Where do I want to go? My experience does not even allow for me to get on the path to my ultimate destination however I would like to implement my own Operating System. For now I'm simply trying to gain some programming experience.
> 
>>
>> You're not asking too much; you're asking too little. :)
>>
> 
> Wish I knew the appropriate questions to ask. I would be much more vigilant toward seeking answers. It can be a little disconcerting to seek advice about a subject which you are completely unfamiliar with. Hopefully with practice, experience will prevail.
> 
>> As as you probably already know (since I seem to mention this weekly), I've created some examples, http://jcc_7.tripod.com/d/tutor/. They're pretty simple (because I'm no D guru yet), but they might help a beginner. I try to add to them often and I know there needs to be a lot more commentary, but it's better than nothing.
> 
> 
> I know and have used played with some of them. Thanks!

I'm glad you could benefit from them.

> 
>> If you need something more sophisiticated, ask a specific question in this newsgroup. Many here know much.
>>
> 
> Soon as I figure out what they are I'll be sure to ask.
> 
> Andrew

-- 
Justin
http://jcc_7.tripod.com/d/
February 18, 2004
J C Calvarese wrote:
> I've gotten a port of the ADO interfaces to compile, but I've run into fishy runtime errors. 

Justin,

How did you do this?  Did you wrap the oledb or sqloledb header files?  Do you think you have a path (via ADO) to MS SQL?  Or is it that you have a path to ADO and ADO would need to be installed on the machine, but you'd be able to get to any ADO data source?  In either case, good work.

BA
February 18, 2004
Brad Anderson wrote:
> J C Calvarese wrote:
> 
>> I've gotten a port of the ADO interfaces to compile, but I've run into fishy runtime errors. 
> 
> 
> Justin,
> 
> How did you do this?  Did you wrap the oledb or sqloledb header files?  Do you think you have a path (via ADO) to MS SQL?  Or is it that you have a path to ADO and ADO would need to be installed on the machine, but you'd be able to get to any ADO data source?  In either case, good work.
> 
> BA

The idea was to get access to ADO (and in turn, any ADO data source). ADO would have to be installed, but the latest versions of windows have it installed by default (Win2000/WinXP) and it's available as a free download from the Microsoft web page for earlier versions of windows.

Unfortunately, I did something wrong in porting the header (msado15.idl?) and/or the C example. I was able to subdue the compile-time errors, but some runtime errors remained. I pushed the project to the side a while back, but I intend to work on it again sometime.

If I got it to work, I'd probably also try to port ADOX and DAO.

-- 
Justin
http://jcc_7.tripod.com/d/
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