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GUI questions
Jun 02, 2004
Stewart Gordon
Jun 02, 2004
J Anderson
Jun 02, 2004
Bruno A. Costa
Jun 02, 2004
Stewart Gordon
June 02, 2004
what's the best GUI for windows at the moment? (unDig, DFC, DUI)...

Can you compare them, and tell me the differences between them.




June 02, 2004
And if possible add comments for Andy's Dfbth.

Miguel


June 02, 2004
Miguel Ferreira Simões wrote:

> what's the best GUI for windows at the moment? (unDig, DFC, DUI)...

Depends on what you want out of it.

> Can you compare them, and tell me the differences between them.

There seem to be two main kinds of GUI libraries.  There are the thin layers over the Windows API, such as DFC and SDWF.  And then there are the higher-level libs that seem to remind me of Java AWT such as dig and DUI.

I've had looks at the sites, but haven't experimented with the various libs themselves apart from my own (i.e. SDWF).  Maybe someone else has and'll be able to give a better comparison.

> And if possible add comments for Andy's Dfbth.

The only comment I can really make is that I hadn't heard of that one.

Meanwhile, you could always take a look at them and see what you think.  Hopefully the downloads include non-trivial example code, but I haven't checked.  If you haven't discovered it already, this page should get you started:

http://www.wikiservice.at/wiki4d/wiki.cgi?AvailableGuiLibraries

Stewart.

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June 02, 2004
Thanks! I've dowload unDig... and I find it cool.

I run the examples and played a little... but I could not understand why a
dos mode window is popped up during the
initialization. Isn't it supposed to appear only one window (the program
one)?


Miguel

"Stewart Gordon" <smjg_1998@yahoo.com> escreveu na mensagem news:c9kp1t$22b7$1@digitaldaemon.com...
> Miguel Ferreira Simões wrote:
>
> > what's the best GUI for windows at the moment? (unDig, DFC, DUI)...
>
> Depends on what you want out of it.
>
> > Can you compare them, and tell me the differences between them.
>
> There seem to be two main kinds of GUI libraries.  There are the thin layers over the Windows API, such as DFC and SDWF.  And then there are the higher-level libs that seem to remind me of Java AWT such as dig and DUI.
>
> I've had looks at the sites, but haven't experimented with the various libs themselves apart from my own (i.e. SDWF).  Maybe someone else has and'll be able to give a better comparison.
>
> > And if possible add comments for Andy's Dfbth.
>
> The only comment I can really make is that I hadn't heard of that one.
>
> Meanwhile, you could always take a look at them and see what you think.
>   Hopefully the downloads include non-trivial example code, but I
> haven't checked.  If you haven't discovered it already, this page should
> get you started:
>
> http://www.wikiservice.at/wiki4d/wiki.cgi?AvailableGuiLibraries
>
> Stewart.
>
> --
> My e-mail is valid but not my primary mailbox, aside from its being the unfortunate victim of intensive mail-bombing at the moment.  Please keep replies on the 'group where everyone may benefit.


June 02, 2004
Miguel Ferreira Simões wrote:

>Thanks! I've dowload unDig... and I find it cool.
>
>I run the examples and played a little... but I could not understand why a
>dos mode window is popped up during the
>initialization. Isn't it supposed to appear only one window (the program
>one)?
>  
>
It is used for debugging.  It can easily be removed by adding /SUBSYSTEM:WINDOWS to the linking stage (link.exe).

-- 
-Anderson: http://badmama.com.au/~anderson/
June 02, 2004
The problem with some GUI toolkits is that they are not portable.

It would be very nice if all developers had portability in mind.

Cheers,

Bruno.


Miguel Ferreira Simões wrote:

> Thanks! I've dowload unDig... and I find it cool.
> 
> I run the examples and played a little... but I could not understand why a
> dos mode window is popped up during the
> initialization. Isn't it supposed to appear only one window (the program
> one)?
> 
> 
> Miguel
> 
> "Stewart Gordon" <smjg_1998@yahoo.com> escreveu na mensagem news:c9kp1t$22b7$1@digitaldaemon.com...
>> Miguel Ferreira Simões wrote:
>>
>> > what's the best GUI for windows at the moment? (unDig, DFC, DUI)...
>>
>> Depends on what you want out of it.
>>
>> > Can you compare them, and tell me the differences between them.
>>
>> There seem to be two main kinds of GUI libraries.  There are the thin layers over the Windows API, such as DFC and SDWF.  And then there are the higher-level libs that seem to remind me of Java AWT such as dig and DUI.
>>
>> I've had looks at the sites, but haven't experimented with the various libs themselves apart from my own (i.e. SDWF).  Maybe someone else has and'll be able to give a better comparison.
>>
>> > And if possible add comments for Andy's Dfbth.
>>
>> The only comment I can really make is that I hadn't heard of that one.
>>
>> Meanwhile, you could always take a look at them and see what you think.
>>   Hopefully the downloads include non-trivial example code, but I
>> haven't checked.  If you haven't discovered it already, this page should
>> get you started:
>>
>> http://www.wikiservice.at/wiki4d/wiki.cgi?AvailableGuiLibraries
>>
>> Stewart.
>>
>> --
>> My e-mail is valid but not my primary mailbox, aside from its being the unfortunate victim of intensive mail-bombing at the moment.  Please keep replies on the 'group where everyone may benefit.

June 02, 2004
Bruno A. Costa wrote:

> The problem with some GUI toolkits is that they are not portable.

It is also the design of some GUI toolkits.

> It would be very nice if all developers had portability in mind.
<snip top of upside-down reply>

Portability has its downsides.  For example, it limits how close you can stay to the API for simplicity, efficiency or other reasons.

Hence whether you'll want to port your program or not is a contributing factor to the decision of which library to use.

Stewart.

-- 
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June 02, 2004
Thanks!!! I was getting worried...

"J Anderson" <REMOVEanderson@badmama.com.au> escreveu na mensagem news:c9ksnn$27mq$1@digitaldaemon.com...
> Miguel Ferreira Simões wrote:
>
> >Thanks! I've dowload unDig... and I find it cool.
> >
> >I run the examples and played a little... but I could not understand why
a
> >dos mode window is popped up during the
> >initialization. Isn't it supposed to appear only one window (the program
> >one)?
> >
> >
> It is used for debugging.  It can easily be removed by adding /SUBSYSTEM:WINDOWS to the linking stage (link.exe).
>
> --
> -Anderson: http://badmama.com.au/~anderson/


June 02, 2004
When I was playing with the code I got a compiler error code: 128. It does
not display any additional text message.
What's that?

Miguel


June 02, 2004
oops... never mind.

"Miguel Ferreira Simões" <kobold@netcabo.pt> escreveu na mensagem news:c9l78d$2nel$1@digitaldaemon.com...
> When I was playing with the code I got a compiler error code: 128. It does
> not display any additional text message.
> What's that?
>
> Miguel
>
>


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