On 29/11/13 14:53, Jacob Carlborg wrote:
> Why did you install dmd from source and not the same way as Go? It's a bit
> unfair comparison. Dub is a package manager for D, with many libraries available.

There is absolutely no point trying to complain about "unfair comparison" here.  The real question you have to ask is why there wasn't an obvious equivalent to Go's "install the default build for my platform".

You can say, "Hey, D does have that equivalent, the .zip installer, or the .deb or .rpm files ...!" but that's not the point.  The point is why OP considered that the natural way to do things was to install from source.

The obvious solution to this is that the homepage should have a Big Friendly Button shouting "Get started with D!" that should take you to a page which auto-detects your system and makes available an appropriate installer.

On Tuesday, 3 December 2013 at 15:07:36 UTC, Joseph Rushton Wakeling wrote:
> On 29/11/13 14:53, Jacob Carlborg wrote:

> The obvious solution to this is that the homepage should have a Big Friendly Button shouting "Get started with D!" that should take you to a page which auto-detects your system and makes available an appropriate installer.

At least let it be a *proeminent* link towards the "Downloads & Tools" page, which is so quietly hidden in the left menu.

On 12/3/13 7:56 AM, eles wrote:
> On Tuesday, 3 December 2013 at 15:07:36 UTC, Joseph Rushton Wakeling wrote:
>> On 29/11/13 14:53, Jacob Carlborg wrote:
>
>> The obvious solution to this is that the homepage should have a Big
>> Friendly Button shouting "Get started with D!" that should take you to
>> a page which auto-detects your system and makes available an
>> appropriate installer.
>
> At least let it be a *proeminent* link towards the "Downloads & Tools"
> page, which is so quietly hidden in the left menu.

Pull request please. Also does everybody like the graphics at the top of http://dconf.org/2014/index.html?

Andrei

On 2013-12-03 03:33:32 +0000, Daniel Murphy said:

> "H. S. Teoh" <hsteoh@quickfur.ath.cx> wrote in message news:mailman.208.1386005781.3242.digitalmars-d@puremagic.com...
>> On Mon, Dec 02, 2013 at 05:34:12PM +0100, Dicebot wrote:
>>> On Monday, 2 December 2013 at 16:19:11 UTC, H. S. Teoh wrote:
>>>> +1. Can we have multiple alias this? Pretty please? :)
>>> 
>>> It think it is all about "pretty pulls please" ;)
>> 
>> I know, I know... I just need to find the time to sit down and dig into
>> the dmd code. Unfortunately, unlike Phobos where the code is easy to
>> understand (thanks to being written in D), the dmd code is harder. Well,
>> that, and I just haven't had the time to look over it more carefully.
>> 
>> OTOH, there's also the temptation to wait until we've bootstrapped dmd
>> into D, so that I can work with D source code instead of C++. :)
>> 
> 
> The D version is automatically generated from the C++ version, so time spent learning the C++ code would not be wasted.

Please tell me more.   Is this actually happening?  Where's it at?

On Tuesday, 3 December 2013 at 20:53:28 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
> On 12/3/13 7:56 AM, eles wrote:
>> On Tuesday, 3 December 2013 at 15:07:36 UTC, Joseph Rushton Wakeling wrote:
>>> On 29/11/13 14:53, Jacob Carlborg wrote:
>>
>>> The obvious solution to this is that the homepage should have a Big
>>> Friendly Button shouting "Get started with D!" that should take you to
>>> a page which auto-detects your system and makes available an
>>> appropriate installer.
>>
>> At least let it be a *proeminent* link towards the "Downloads & Tools"
>> page, which is so quietly hidden in the left menu.
>
> Pull request please. Also does everybody like the graphics at the top of http://dconf.org/2014/index.html?
>
> Andrei

I do, nice and clean.

If I had any criticism it would be that the lettering on "Menlo Park" etc. is just a tiny bit too heavy.  If the letters could be made  more distinct, that would be nice.  However, I don't think it is a show-stopper.

Of course, now the next person to respond is going to say how much they like that lettering.

Craig

On 12/3/13 4:57 PM, Craig Dillabaugh wrote:
> On Tuesday, 3 December 2013 at 20:53:28 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
>> On 12/3/13 7:56 AM, eles wrote:
>>> On Tuesday, 3 December 2013 at 15:07:36 UTC, Joseph Rushton Wakeling
>>> wrote:
>>>> On 29/11/13 14:53, Jacob Carlborg wrote:
>>>
>>>> The obvious solution to this is that the homepage should have a Big
>>>> Friendly Button shouting "Get started with D!" that should take you to
>>>> a page which auto-detects your system and makes available an
>>>> appropriate installer.
>>>
>>> At least let it be a *proeminent* link towards the "Downloads & Tools"
>>> page, which is so quietly hidden in the left menu.
>>
>> Pull request please. Also does everybody like the graphics at the top
>> of http://dconf.org/2014/index.html?
>>
>> Andrei
>
> I do, nice and clean.
>
> If I had any criticism it would be that the lettering on "Menlo Park"
> etc. is just a tiny bit too heavy.  If the letters could be made  more
> distinct, that would be nice.  However, I don't think it is a show-stopper.
>
> Of course, now the next person to respond is going to say how much they
> like that lettering.
>
> Craig

Thanks. I was asking mainly hoping that someone would say it's horrible and submit a fix :o). I adapted that from last year's logo with a free online image editor over my phone's 4G connection on a bus. True story.

Andrei

"Shammah Chancellor" <anonymous@coward.com> wrote in message news:l7lrsm$2s0c$1@digitalmars.com...
> On 2013-12-03 03:33:32 +0000, Daniel Murphy said:
>
>> "H. S. Teoh" <hsteoh@quickfur.ath.cx> wrote in message news:mailman.208.1386005781.3242.digitalmars-d@puremagic.com...
>>> On Mon, Dec 02, 2013 at 05:34:12PM +0100, Dicebot wrote:
>>>> On Monday, 2 December 2013 at 16:19:11 UTC, H. S. Teoh wrote:
>>>>> +1. Can we have multiple alias this? Pretty please? :)
>>>>
>>>> It think it is all about "pretty pulls please" ;)
>>>
>>> I know, I know... I just need to find the time to sit down and dig into the dmd code. Unfortunately, unlike Phobos where the code is easy to understand (thanks to being written in D), the dmd code is harder. Well, that, and I just haven't had the time to look over it more carefully.
>>>
>>> OTOH, there's also the temptation to wait until we've bootstrapped dmd into D, so that I can work with D source code instead of C++. :)
>>>
>>
>> The D version is automatically generated from the C++ version, so time spent learning the C++ code would not be wasted.
>
> Please tell me more.   Is this actually happening?  Where's it at?
>

Yeah.  See: http://forum.dlang.org/post/khkst4$13ad$1@digitalmars.com http://forum.dlang.org/post/jqvduhyvfufpzovpyqbj@forum.dlang.org

Patches against dmd: https://github.com/D-Programming-Language/dmd/pull/1980
Converter tool: https://github.com/yebblies/magicport2
Pull requests marked DDMD:
https://github.com/D-Programming-Language/dmd/pulls/yebblies

On Tuesday, 3 December 2013 at 20:53:28 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
> Pull request please. Also does everybody like the graphics at the top of http://dconf.org/2014/index.html?
>
> Andrei

The space between the 0, 1 and 4 in 2014 is making me cringe.

On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 6:13 AM, Meta <jared771@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tuesday, 3 December 2013 at 20:53:28 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
>>
>> Pull request please. Also does everybody like the graphics at the top of http://dconf.org/2014/index.html?
>>
>> Andrei
>
>
> The space between the 0, 1 and 4 in 2014 is making me cringe.

Compulsory XKCD link:

http://xkcd.com/1015/

On 2013-12-03 16:07, Joseph Rushton Wakeling wrote:

> There is absolutely no point trying to complain about "unfair
> comparison" here.  The real question you have to ask is why there wasn't
> an obvious equivalent to Go's "install the default build for my platform".
>
> You can say, "Hey, D does have that equivalent, the .zip installer, or
> the .deb or .rpm files ...!" but that's not the point.  The point is why
> OP considered that the natural way to do things was to install from source.

I thought that was just what I asked. Sure I could have skipped the "unfair comparison".

-- 
/Jacob Carlborg