I found it funny in Spanish class that the spanish word for "mustache" was considered female :).

As for an ungendered pronoun, I like to just take the male pronouns as being
androgonus.  I think there's already precidents:
- Nobody says "actress" anymore. They're all just "actors" now.
- Not a lot of people use the pc versions of many other job titles like
"garbagemen", "firemen".
- "One small step for man, one giant leap for mankind" was probably not
referring to males alone.

"Simon Buchan" <buchan.home@ihug.co.nz> wrote in message news:opskmtoqwestcuho@simon...
> On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 19:05:10 -0800, Paul Bonser <misterpib@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Jarrett Billingsley wrote:
>>>> The closest "polite" form we have is "he/she" which is, sadly, a
>>>> lingustic
>>>> kludge at best.
>>>   Around here, we say "they" for an indefinite third person.
>>>  Something I also can't get my head around - spoken language has been
>>> around
>>> much longer than written language, yes?  Then why are there two
>>> distinctly
>>> separate sets of rules for spoken and written English?  Shouldn't the
>>> written language reflect the spoken?  No, apparently not - we always
>>> have to
>>> use "one" in our papers, when no one says "one."  Confusing.
>>>
>>
>> Okay, I lied about staying out of this topic, but I couldn't resist. The word "they" is plural, and therefore semantically wrong for this kind of use.
>>
>> I found some sites with some info on ones that seem almost suitable.. http://footnotes.jinkies.org.uk/pronouns.html http://www.aetherlumina.com/gnp/
>>
>> Okay, I should leave this alone now :)
>>
>> -PIB
>
> Note also that from the 'orrible sexist market I currently see, men
> outnumber
> women by at LEAST 10 : 1 in programming.
>
> One is a little to vauge, not to mention a bit Brittish Upper-ClassT
> (Can't
> beleive I remember the key-stroke for that). He/She is terrible. (I would
> probbably
> rather be called She that He/She, anyway) Alternating is asking for
> trouble.
> They, as said, is plural. It, likewise, is considered demeaning. As a side
> note, the
> only acceptable genderless singular pronoun for a sophont (The more PC
> term for sentient,
> cause animals feel too <roll eyes/>) I've heard is Ve, which is in fact
> for beings
> where the idea of gender are irrelevant, like programs. Go figure.
>
> Don't lose hope, though, with any luck, the Americans will totally factor
> out
> gender from the language, and we already got rid of (most) gendered
> inanimite
> objects, as in French. (Other 'Romance' languages, too? (As in, derived
> from Roman, not because they're romantic :P))
>
> BTW, sorry if I come across as trying to hand out knowledge from on
> high...
> guess it's just natural when your just so damn smart ];)
>
> -- 
> Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/

Nick Sabalausky wrote:
> I found it funny in Spanish class that the spanish word for "mustache" was considered female :).
> 

Sorry, dude, but "bigote" is male. (mustache is the hair that grows on the upper lip, right?). You must've been thinking about something else.


_______________________
Carlos Santander Bernal

I'll take a stab and guess he or she is looking for functions which emulate the addslashes and stripslashes functions in PHP.  Example:

echo addslashes("don't");
> don\'t

echo stripslashes("don\\'t");
> don't

Please note that these are *runtime* functions, nothing like the functionality of backticks in D.  The main use for this would be, I suppose, SQL (as in PHP.)  For example:

char[] querystring = "
   SELECT column
   FROM table
   WHERE othercolumn = '" ~ std.string.escape(value) ~ "'
   LIMIT 1";

I'm no oracle though, so I could be wrong - this person *could* just be a monkey, I suppose, as suggested by Simon Buchan.  But, I'm guessing not - mostly because I don't think the typewriters they use have brackets.  I'm probably wrong about that, though.

-[Unknown]

-------- Original Message --------
> In article <cs67ip$2rnk$1@digitaldaemon.com>, JapA says...
> 
>>char[] function(char[]) escape and unescape
>>
>>"escaped\tstring\n"
>>-->"escaped\\tstring\\n"
>>
>>
> 
> 
> Maybe I'm just me incable of understanding "programspeak", but what exactly are
> you trying to say?
> 
> 

Unknown W. Brackets wrote:
> I'll take a stab and guess he or she is looking for functions which emulate the addslashes and stripslashes functions in PHP.  Example:
> 
> echo addslashes("don't");
>  > don\'t
> 
> echo stripslashes("don\\'t");
>  > don't
Ahah! I bet that that's what he was saying...of course, he'll probably never confirm it now that we've most likely embarrassed him away from the board, you think?

-PIB

I'm afraid that's probably so, although I meant no mal-intent and I don't think he did much wrong, except maybe be a bit vague - possibly not a primary English speaker.

Oh well.  If you're reading this, don't worry, no big deal about verbosity in my book.

-[Unknown]

> Ahah! I bet that that's what he was saying...of course, he'll probably never confirm it now that we've most likely embarrassed him away from the board, you think?
> 
> -PIB

Hmm, maybe it was "beard". Either that or my teacher just didn't know what she was talking about - which is entirely possible.

"Carlos Santander B." <csantander619@gmail.com> wrote in message news:csc6kb$7nt$1@digitaldaemon.com...
> Nick Sabalausky wrote:
>> I found it funny in Spanish class that the spanish word for "mustache" was considered female :).
>>
>
> Sorry, dude, but "bigote" is male. (mustache is the hair that grows on the upper lip, right?). You must've been thinking about something else.
>
>
> _______________________
> Carlos Santander Bernal

Nick Sabalausky wrote:
> Hmm, maybe it was "beard". Either that or my teacher just didn't know what she was talking about - which is entirely possible.
> 

Now you're correct: "barba" is female.

_______________________
Carlos Santander Bernal

Carlos Santander B. wrote:

> Nick Sabalausky wrote:
>> Hmm, maybe it was "beard". Either that or my teacher just didn't know what she was talking about - which is entirely possible.
>> 
> 
> Now you're correct: "barba" is female.


Just to add something to this linguistic thread: barba it's the same in Italian, name and gender... and "baffi" is male gender:)

Byez:)

Carotinho

I'm sorry for vagueness.
//How about this?
char[] quote(char[] s,int style=0);
char[] unquote(char[] s,int style=0);

assert(
quote("Are\tyou\nmonkey?")=="\"Are\\tyou\\nmonkey?\"");

"Paul Bonser" <misterpib@gmail.com> wrote in message news:cs9e3s$7nq$1@digitaldaemon.com...
> pragma wrote:
>> In article <cs9904$1kc$1@digitaldaemon.com>, Paul Bonser says...
>>
>>>Or perhaps the English language is to blame for not having gender-free pronouns...
>>
>>
>> [Way offtopic here, and just for fun...]
>>
>> Well, we do have "it" and "its", but for some reason they're concidered "rude"
>> (almost derogatory) when used in reference to a person.  At best "it" would
>> accurately describe a hemaphrodite, which would be exceedingly unlikely to be
>> accurate since among what few hemaphrodites exist, most proclaim a gender to
>> avoid such problems anyway.  The closest "polite" form we have is "he/she" which is, sadly, a lingustic
>> kludge at best.  And don't even get me started on the "alternating pronoun gender every other
>> paragraph" thing; man, that stuff gets confusing. :)
>>
>> (I wonder if somewhere there's a newsgroup full of english teachers, journalists and Phd's attempting to develop an evolved/improved English-like language ... hrm)
>>
>> As to the original content: I haven't a clue as to what that's about.
>>
>> Pragma - ericanderton at yahoo
>
> My English teacher in high school told me there are two standards for gender-free pronouns, both use by a few College professors.

and they are ??

 I wonder
> what kind of "English Standards Agency" there is or whatnot? I want to see the ANSI Recommendation for the English standard version 1.5 :)
>
> Okay, Sorry all, I'm done with this thread...maybe.
>
> -PIB.