Some people over here like to take C# as inspiration for new DIPs

Well, tagged union is coming to C#, let's resurrect that old DIP and go submit a PR

Don't become a relic of the past, move forward

https://github.com/dotnet/csharplang/blob/main/proposals/TypeUnions.md

D should be leading, there is no reason for D to remain a relic of the past, no industry rely on D, yet they rely on C#, and yet C# moves forward!

On Friday, 2 August 2024 at 10:29:22 UTC, ryuukk_ wrote:

Only if some IT giant will decide to invest 100+ full-time professional devs into research and development :)

On Friday, 2 August 2024 at 10:43:56 UTC, Sergey wrote:

Bullshit, R&D already done many decades ago, it's a common feature, it's not a novel thing

https://odin-lang.org/docs/overview/#unions

Fast compilation is the only thing that makes me resist from porting my current game to an other language, and these languages are getting there too..

D should move forward, fast

On Friday, 2 August 2024 at 10:54:59 UTC, ryuukk_ wrote:

My answer is general, not only about these two things.
Research is never stop =)
GC, ownership and other things.

If the language is big and has a lot of features you need a lot of resources for proper implementation, that all these things work flawlessly together.

C# and C could have fast compilation I think as well https://github.com/nordlow/compiler-benchmark

If there will be more developers and contributors for sure :)

On Friday, 2 August 2024 at 10:54:59 UTC, ryuukk_ wrote:

Odin is far for being a model. Not self hosted, many bugs, poor implementation, poor test suite.

On Friday, 2 August 2024 at 19:53:15 UTC, user1234 wrote:

It just takes me 1 minute to bring an evidence:

• https://github.com/odin-lang/Odin/issues/4001
• https://github.com/odin-lang/Odin/commit/fdfe6b00e0e8558050ebd6e6c7cb33b3d789be4f

nothing proves that this cannot break again. I see many things like this in Odin, Zig, Nim, V, etc.

In my opinion, and as I consult often many PL bug trackers, there is a serious lack of methodology in all those "alt" languages, especially when they are hosted on GH...just to make some clicks.

On Friday, 2 August 2024 at 19:53:15 UTC, user1234 wrote:

see https://odin-lang.org/docs/faq/#is-the-odin-compiler-self-hosted

This is one of the most stupid thing I've ever read.

On Friday, 2 August 2024 at 20:07:02 UTC, user1234 wrote:

Brother, don't be jealous, they are young languages, built by young people, they have a whole life ahead of them

C# does it to appeal to webdevs as microsoft bets on Azure.

On Saturday, 3 August 2024 at 04:00:51 UTC, ryuukk_ wrote:

Sorry for my previous words, they were not argumented. On top of that I would not like contributing to the "language war", so let me explain:

I just cant stand his position on bootstraping. You see D had the same problem. You had to be a C++ programmer to contribute. Dont you see not to bootstrap is absurd ? At some point you propose something new instead of the old thing, but you have to master the old thing to contribute to the new thing.

Just "comon you guys". If you are afraid of the self hosting process then just admit that fact and dont pretend that "self hosting before a stable language and compiler exists is masturbatory pleasure" (I quote).