Hi,

I made the first release of the standalone installer available at

ftp://81.169.181.155/dmdsetup0120.exe

I don't know if I have Walter's blessing and if there are any copyright/restriction issues I should be aware of.

It would be nice if we could bundle a tutorial / reference help file in .CHM format and a compatible IDE in the future.

-Andreas

I don't know how the Wiki works, but it would be nice if someone added a link to it.

Also, if Walter approves the installer, it would be helpful for beginning programmers to have a simple download link on D's main page to the installer.

-Andreas


"Andreas Schmid" <monkey@gmx.info> wrote in message news:d3o18q$30jt$1@digitaldaemon.com...
> Hi,
>
> I made the first release of the standalone installer available at
>
> ftp://81.169.181.155/dmdsetup0120.exe
>
> I don't know if I have Walter's blessing and if there are any copyright/restriction issues I should be aware of.
>
> It would be nice if we could bundle a tutorial / reference help file in .CHM format and a compatible IDE in the future.
>
> -Andreas
>
>
> 

Andreas Schmid wrote:

> I made the first release of the standalone installer available at
> ftp://81.169.181.155/dmdsetup0120.exe

Good work, I like those packaged installations (I've made Linux RPMS)

> I don't know if I have Walter's blessing and if there are any copyright/restriction issues I should be aware of.

You should ready the "license.txt" file in the distribution...

"The Software is copyrighted and comes with a single user license,
and may not be redistributed. If you wish to obtain a redistribution license, please contact Digital Mars."

This means that *you* can't offer those packages, only Walter can.

However, you could make the source file for Inno Setup available ?
Like I posted the specfile for making a RPM package for Linux earlier, http://www.algonet.se/~afb/d/dmd.spec (with a bunch of patches, but)

> It would be nice if we could bundle a tutorial / reference help file in .CHM format and a compatible IDE in the future.

Tutorials can be bundled, but the D specification has a similar
copyright... So http://www.digitalmars.com/d/ can't be bundled,
without a similar permission from the copyright holder ? (DM)

But until Walter says otherwise, neither can be redistributed. :-(

--anders

PS. GDC is distributed under the GNU General Public License (GPL).
    It uses the DMD front-end, which Walter has made available as GPL.
    http://www.gnu.org/copyleft/gpl.html

    There is also some work done, to make unoffical D documentation
    available under the similar GNU Free Documentation License (FDL).
    http://www.gnu.org/copyleft/fdl.html

    See http://prowiki.org/wiki4d/wiki.cgi, for the texts.

I don't have the time to read through the license or provide additional files right now, that will have to wait until the weekend.

I've deactivated the download for the time being until all license issues are resolved.

Thanks for info & suggestions, Anders.

-Andreas

"Anders F Björklund" <afb@algonet.se> wrote in message news:d3o3re$1ks$1@digitaldaemon.com...
> Andreas Schmid wrote:
>
>> I made the first release of the standalone installer available at ftp://81.169.181.155/dmdsetup0120.exe
>
> Good work, I like those packaged installations (I've made Linux RPMS)
>
>> I don't know if I have Walter's blessing and if there are any copyright/restriction issues I should be aware of.
>
> You should ready the "license.txt" file in the distribution...
>
> "The Software is copyrighted and comes with a single user license, and may not be redistributed. If you wish to obtain a redistribution license, please contact Digital Mars."
>
> This means that *you* can't offer those packages, only Walter can.
>
> However, you could make the source file for Inno Setup available ? Like I posted the specfile for making a RPM package for Linux earlier, http://www.algonet.se/~afb/d/dmd.spec (with a bunch of patches, but)
>
>> It would be nice if we could bundle a tutorial / reference help file in .CHM format and a compatible IDE in the future.
>
> Tutorials can be bundled, but the D specification has a similar copyright... So http://www.digitalmars.com/d/ can't be bundled, without a similar permission from the copyright holder ? (DM)
>
> But until Walter says otherwise, neither can be redistributed. :-(
>
> --anders
>
> PS. GDC is distributed under the GNU General Public License (GPL).
>     It uses the DMD front-end, which Walter has made available as GPL.
>     http://www.gnu.org/copyleft/gpl.html
>
>     There is also some work done, to make unoffical D documentation
>     available under the similar GNU Free Documentation License (FDL).
>     http://www.gnu.org/copyleft/fdl.html
>
>     See http://prowiki.org/wiki4d/wiki.cgi, for the texts.

Andreas Schmid wrote:

> I don't have the time to read through the license or provide additional files right now, that will have to wait until the weekend.

No problem, that's only like... tomorrow, isn't it ?

> I've deactivated the download for the time being until all license issues are resolved.

Sorry to spoil the fun for all... But if the license "problems"
are worked out, I will be happy to post .i586.rpm files for DMD ?

BTW;
Mac OS X installations provided at http://gdcmac.sourceforge.net/,
will probably also feature .ppc.rpm for Yellow Dog Linux (PPC)...

--anders

Another choice would be to offer a "setup" program that wouldn't come with the actual compiler, but would instead locate it (or ask where it is installed) and set up Windows (and/or DOS, etc.) to let you use it in that location without having to "manually" set it up.

Of course, you could also simply ask Walter for permission... or send him the source code and give him permission to compile and distribute it with DMD.  :)

TZ

"Anders F Björklund" <afb@algonet.se> wrote in message news:d3o3re$1ks$1@digitaldaemon.com...
> Andreas Schmid wrote:
>
> > I made the first release of the standalone installer available at ftp://81.169.181.155/dmdsetup0120.exe
>
> Good work, I like those packaged installations (I've made Linux RPMS)
>
> > I don't know if I have Walter's blessing and if there are any copyright/restriction issues I should be aware of.
>
> You should ready the "license.txt" file in the distribution...
>
> "The Software is copyrighted and comes with a single user license, and may not be redistributed. If you wish to obtain a redistribution license, please contact Digital Mars."
>
> This means that *you* can't offer those packages, only Walter can.
>
> However, you could make the source file for Inno Setup available ? Like I posted the specfile for making a RPM package for Linux earlier, http://www.algonet.se/~afb/d/dmd.spec (with a bunch of patches, but)
>
> > It would be nice if we could bundle a tutorial / reference help file in .CHM format and a compatible IDE in the future.
>
> Tutorials can be bundled, but the D specification has a similar copyright... So http://www.digitalmars.com/d/ can't be bundled, without a similar permission from the copyright holder ? (DM)
>
> But until Walter says otherwise, neither can be redistributed. :-(
>
> --anders
>
> PS. GDC is distributed under the GNU General Public License (GPL).
>      It uses the DMD front-end, which Walter has made available as GPL.
>      http://www.gnu.org/copyleft/gpl.html
>
>      There is also some work done, to make unoffical D documentation
>      available under the similar GNU Free Documentation License (FDL).
>      http://www.gnu.org/copyleft/fdl.html
>
>      See http://prowiki.org/wiki4d/wiki.cgi, for the texts.

I think your work on this is just great!

Anders F Björklund wrote:
> Andreas Schmid wrote:
> 
>> I don't have the time to read through the license or provide additional files right now, that will have to wait until the weekend.
> 
> 
> No problem, that's only like... tomorrow, isn't it ?
> 
>> I've deactivated the download for the time being until all license issues are resolved.
> 
> 
> Sorry to spoil the fun for all... But if the license "problems"
> are worked out, I will be happy to post .i586.rpm files for DMD ?
> 
> BTW;
> Mac OS X installations provided at http://gdcmac.sourceforge.net/,
> will probably also feature .ppc.rpm for Yellow Dog Linux (PPC)...
> 
> --anders

TechnoZeus wrote:
> Another choice would be to offer a "setup" program that wouldn't come with the actual compiler, but would instead locate it (or ask where it is installed) and set up Windows (and/or DOS, etc.) to let you use it in that location without having to "manually" set it up.

Yes, that's a good idea. And now that D has zlib and several GUI libraries from which to select, the "D installer" could be written in D. ;)

(It might be a good way to avoid writing over one's custom sc.ini with every new release of D: http://www.digitalmars.com/d/archives/digitalmars/D/12060.html)

-- 
jcc7
http://jcc_7.tripod.com/d/

"J C Calvarese" <jcc7@cox.net> wrote in message news:d3sthg$12mb$1@digitaldaemon.com...
> TechnoZeus wrote:
> > Another choice would be to offer a "setup" program that wouldn't come with the actual compiler, but would instead locate it (or ask where it is installed) and set up Windows (and/or DOS, etc.) to let you use it in that location without having to "manually" set it up.
>
> Yes, that's a good idea. And now that D has zlib and several GUI
> libraries from which to select, the "D installer" could be written in D. ;)
>
> (It might be a good way to avoid writing over one's custom sc.ini with every new release of D: http://www.digitalmars.com/d/archives/digitalmars/D/12060.html)
>
> -- 
> jcc7
> http://jcc_7.tripod.com/d/

Good points.  :)

TZ