On Fri, 17 Jun 2005 20:13:18 +0000 (UTC), Sean Kelly wrote:

> ... I'm currently implementing atomic values in D,
> and this totally blows the design out of the water, as it effectively alters an
> atomic value without using the proper memory barriers.  I may have to switch
> from using 'struct' to 'class' just to avoid this problem, and that brings with
> it all the DMA baggage I was hoping to avoid.

Welcome to the club! You are not alone ;-)

-- 
Derek Parnell
Melbourne, Australia
18/06/2005 7:57:44 AM

"Derek Parnell" <derek@psych.ward> wrote in message news:uz2bj4ivg8xu.qt21fpvknkqw$.dlg@40tude.net...
> On Fri, 17 Jun 2005 20:13:18 +0000 (UTC), Sean Kelly wrote:
>
>> ... I'm currently implementing atomic values in D,
>> and this totally blows the design out of the water, as it effectively
>> alters an
>> atomic value without using the proper memory barriers.  I may have to
>> switch
>> from using 'struct' to 'class' just to avoid this problem, and that
>> brings with
>> it all the DMA baggage I was hoping to avoid.
>
> Welcome to the club! You are not alone ;-)

not structured but highly classified club of
constant haters? huh?

Andrew.

On Fri, 17 Jun 2005 15:14:43 -0700, Andrew Fedoniouk wrote:

> "Derek Parnell" <derek@psych.ward> wrote in message news:uz2bj4ivg8xu.qt21fpvknkqw$.dlg@40tude.net...
>> On Fri, 17 Jun 2005 20:13:18 +0000 (UTC), Sean Kelly wrote:
>>
>>> ... I'm currently implementing atomic values in D,
>>> and this totally blows the design out of the water, as it effectively
>>> alters an
>>> atomic value without using the proper memory barriers.  I may have to
>>> switch
>>> from using 'struct' to 'class' just to avoid this problem, and that
>>> brings with
>>> it all the DMA baggage I was hoping to avoid.
>>
>> Welcome to the club! You are not alone ;-)
> 
> not structured but highly classified club of
> constant haters? huh?

What???? Is this a language thing? I have no idea what you just meant by that, but it sounds like I should be offended - but that's not your way  so I'm totally confused.

-- 
Derek Parnell
Melbourne, Australia
18/06/2005 8:20:33 AM

>>>Welcome to the club! You are not alone ;-)
>>
>>not structured but highly classified club of
>>constant haters? huh?
> 
> 
> What???? Is this a language thing? I have no idea what you just meant by
> that, but it sounds like I should be offended - but that's not your way  so
> I'm totally confused.
> 
Was Andrew trying to make puns with the words struct(ured), class(ified) and const(ant)....?

"Derek Parnell" <derek@psych.ward> wrote in message news:gvq2iqpsedcg.11z462fevs8hw.dlg@40tude.net...
> On Fri, 17 Jun 2005 15:14:43 -0700, Andrew Fedoniouk wrote:
>
>> "Derek Parnell" <derek@psych.ward> wrote in message news:uz2bj4ivg8xu.qt21fpvknkqw$.dlg@40tude.net...
>>> On Fri, 17 Jun 2005 20:13:18 +0000 (UTC), Sean Kelly wrote:
>>>
>>>> ... I'm currently implementing atomic values in D,
>>>> and this totally blows the design out of the water, as it effectively
>>>> alters an
>>>> atomic value without using the proper memory barriers.  I may have to
>>>> switch
>>>> from using 'struct' to 'class' just to avoid this problem, and that
>>>> brings with
>>>> it all the DMA baggage I was hoping to avoid.
>>>
>>> Welcome to the club! You are not alone ;-)
>>
>> not structured but highly classified club of
>> constant haters? huh?
>
> What???? Is this a language thing? I have no idea what you just meant by
> that, but it sounds like I should be offended - but that's not your way
> so
> I'm totally confused.

:) I just thought that any serious gentlemen club should have a resonant name.

*not struct*ured but highly *class*ified club of
*const*ant haters?

Of course no offence implied at all.

Andrew.

On Fri, 17 Jun 2005 16:23:40 -0700, Andrew Fedoniouk wrote:

> "Derek Parnell" <derek@psych.ward> wrote in message news:gvq2iqpsedcg.11z462fevs8hw.dlg@40tude.net...
>> On Fri, 17 Jun 2005 15:14:43 -0700, Andrew Fedoniouk wrote:
>>
>>> "Derek Parnell" <derek@psych.ward> wrote in message news:uz2bj4ivg8xu.qt21fpvknkqw$.dlg@40tude.net...
>>>> On Fri, 17 Jun 2005 20:13:18 +0000 (UTC), Sean Kelly wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> ... I'm currently implementing atomic values in D,
>>>>> and this totally blows the design out of the water, as it effectively
>>>>> alters an
>>>>> atomic value without using the proper memory barriers.  I may have to
>>>>> switch
>>>>> from using 'struct' to 'class' just to avoid this problem, and that
>>>>> brings with
>>>>> it all the DMA baggage I was hoping to avoid.
>>>>
>>>> Welcome to the club! You are not alone ;-)
>>>
>>> not structured but highly classified club of
>>> constant haters? huh?
>>
>> What???? Is this a language thing? I have no idea what you just meant by
>> that, but it sounds like I should be offended - but that's not your way
>> so
>> I'm totally confused.
> 
> :) I just thought that any serious gentlemen club should have a resonant name.
> 
> *not struct*ured but highly *class*ified club of
> *const*ant haters?
> 
> Of course no offence implied at all.
> 
> Andrew.

Ummm ... okay ... ? Whatever.

I still don't get it but I'm happy to let it slide by.

-- 
Derek Parnell
Melbourne, Australia
18/06/2005 9:27:02 AM

"Derek Parnell" <derek@psych.ward> wrote in message news:czdku4x6dwpj.3c20aqf6z4zu$.dlg@40tude.net...
> On Fri, 17 Jun 2005 16:23:40 -0700, Andrew Fedoniouk wrote:
>
>> "Derek Parnell" <derek@psych.ward> wrote in message news:gvq2iqpsedcg.11z462fevs8hw.dlg@40tude.net...
>>> On Fri, 17 Jun 2005 15:14:43 -0700, Andrew Fedoniouk wrote:
>>>
>>>> "Derek Parnell" <derek@psych.ward> wrote in message news:uz2bj4ivg8xu.qt21fpvknkqw$.dlg@40tude.net...
>>>>> On Fri, 17 Jun 2005 20:13:18 +0000 (UTC), Sean Kelly wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> ... I'm currently implementing atomic values in D,
>>>>>> and this totally blows the design out of the water, as it effectively
>>>>>> alters an
>>>>>> atomic value without using the proper memory barriers.  I may have to
>>>>>> switch
>>>>>> from using 'struct' to 'class' just to avoid this problem, and that
>>>>>> brings with
>>>>>> it all the DMA baggage I was hoping to avoid.
>>>>>
>>>>> Welcome to the club! You are not alone ;-)
>>>>
>>>> not structured but highly classified club of
>>>> constant haters? huh?
>>>
>>> What???? Is this a language thing? I have no idea what you just meant by
>>> that, but it sounds like I should be offended - but that's not your way
>>> so
>>> I'm totally confused.
>>
>> :) I just thought that any serious gentlemen club should have a resonant name.
>>
>> *not struct*ured but highly *class*ified club of
>> *const*ant haters?
>>
>> Of course no offence implied at all.
>>
>> Andrew.
>
> Ummm ... okay ... ? Whatever.
>
> I still don't get it but I'm happy to let it slide by.

Was "Welcome to the club!" yours? What is the name of this club then?
Whatever, forget it. Beg my pardon if it sounded offencive.
I know, same things in different cultures can be intrepreted in different
ways.

Andrew.