Unknown W. Brackets schrieb am Wed, 29 Jun 2005 10:25:04 -0700:
> Alas, that discussion has happened many times previous.  Considering I write forum software, one should have an idea of my position ;).
>
> Walter, on the other hand, seems to prefer newsgroups - I believe he felt it preferable to be able to work with a client of your choice, than a web interface (to which my answer would be theming, but that still doesn't completely solve it.)

How about a forum that uses a nntp server for storing messages?

Thomas

Jarrett Billingsley wrote:
> "John Reimer" <brk_6502@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:d9uf75$1iv9$1@digitaldaemon.com...
> 
> Woah!  How'd you post from the future?  If I'm not mistaken, there is nowhere in the world right now where it's 11:30 AM on the 30th.. 
> 
> 

Darn computer... that's the second time.

"Jarrett Billingsley" <kb3ctd2@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:d9u7hi$17ep$1@digitaldaemon.com...
> Dead?
>
> Did everyone somehow schedule their vacations for this month or something? I mean heck, there have been two posts on the announcement board in the
past
> 8 days.  The bugs and learn boards are almost equally stagnant.

It's normal for traffic to drop off substantially in the summer. August is particularly dead. Back in the old Zortech days, we'd not even bother spending money on advertising in August.

Well, some of the main purposes of forums are to:

  - track members (NNTP doesn't understand this, iirc.)
  - keep track of their preferences (NNTP clients do this currently.)
  - allow moderation and similar things (stickies, locking, etc.)

While an NNTP *hookup* could be made, storing it with NNTP wouldn't really work out so well.  You'd lose most of the benefits of forums, and lose the benefits of clients as well - in short, you'd be back to the current web interface.

Anyway, I doubt the hosting digitalmars.com is currently with would allow a different NNTP server to be installed (whether by xinetd or what have you) to serve things, so I'm not sure that would work either.

-[Unknown]


> How about a forum that uses a nntp server for storing messages? 
> 
> Thomas

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Unknown W. Brackets schrieb am Wed, 29 Jun 2005 13:13:23 -0700:
> Well, some of the main purposes of forums are to:
>
>    - track members (NNTP doesn't understand this, iirc.)
>    - keep track of their preferences (NNTP clients do this currently.)
>    - allow moderation and similar things (stickies, locking, etc.)
>
> While an NNTP *hookup* could be made, storing it with NNTP wouldn't really work out so well.  You'd lose most of the benefits of forums, and lose the benefits of clients as well - in short, you'd be back to the current web interface.
>
> Anyway, I doubt the hosting digitalmars.com is currently with would allow a different NNTP server to be installed (whether by xinetd or what have you) to serve things, so I'm not sure that would work either.

I was thinking about 2 backends:
- - plain NNTP for messages (allows: chancel & edit)
- - DB of your choice to to store all the added-value data

Tracking and preferences aren't the problem.
If you customise the NNTP server you could enforce thread locking
(-> references header).

Stickies can only effect the forum UI not the NNTP side. Granted, the NNTP server could play with Date and Xref ...

Thomas


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AJG escribió:
> I blame the newsgroup system ;). People are just too used to regular web forums
> nowadays, so I think it hampers the community's growth. I always use the web
> interface; I don't think I even have a newsreader installed.
> 
> --AJG.
> 
> ================================
> 2B || !2B, that is the question.

I like forums but I prefer newsgroups because I can browse them offline. It's a plus for us with dial-up.

-- 
Carlos Santander Bernal

Jarrett Billingsley schrieb:
> Dead?
> 
> Did everyone somehow schedule their vacations for this month or something? I mean heck, there have been two posts on the announcement board in the past 8 days.  The bugs and learn boards are almost equally stagnant. 
> 

Sorry, it's somewhat tasteless, but i'll post it anyway

--- 8< ---
Every night with my star friends
We eat caviar and drink champagne
Snifing in the V.I.P. area
We talk about Frank Sinatra
Do you know the Frank Sinatra?
He's dead
He's dead
hahahahahaha
[...]
--- >8 ---

Miss Kittin & The Hacker around 2000 maybe.

The rest is even more tasteless.

Draw your conclusions, gentlemen.

-3yE

In article <db9bo7$li$1@digitaldaemon.com>, Ilya Minkov says...
>
>Jarrett Billingsley schrieb:
>> Dead?
>> 
>> Did everyone somehow schedule their vacations for this month or something? I mean heck, there have been two posts on the announcement board in the past 8 days.  The bugs and learn boards are almost equally stagnant.
>> 
>
>Sorry, it's somewhat tasteless, but i'll post it anyway
>
>--- 8< ---
>Every night with my star friends
>We eat caviar and drink champagne
>Snifing in the V.I.P. area
>We talk about Frank Sinatra
>Do you know the Frank Sinatra?
>He's dead
>He's dead
>hahahahahaha
>[...]
>--- >8 ---
>
>Miss Kittin & The Hacker around 2000 maybe.
>
>The rest is even more tasteless.
>
>Draw your conclusions, gentlemen.

I agree there's been some sniffing going on. What, who, where?
I'll leave that as an exercise to the reader.
--AJG.