I viewed it in Abiword...  Damn I hate the doc format.  Give me anything but doc.

On Sun, 2005-07-31 at 04:14 +0000, J C Calvarese wrote:
> In article <dch2bu$1nto$1@digitaldaemon.com>, Walter says...
> >
> >
> >"John Demme" <me@teqdruid.com> wrote in message news:1122266146.3983.12.camel@localhost...
> >> According to http://dwarf.freestandards.org/ShowIssue.php?issue=050408.1&type=closed
> >>
> >> D has been added to the latest DWARF standard draft.  This means that D
> >> has it's own language code.  According to
> >> http://dwarf.freestandards.org/Dwarf3.doc (page 148)
> >> D's been assigned 0x0013.
> >
> >Thanks, I'll make this change. Just to be sure, though, the first url shows it to be 0x001d, but you say it's 0x001d. I can't look at dwarf3.doc, my machine crashes trying to load it. Perhaps freestandards should use an open standard like html instead? <g>
> 
> FWIW, I was able to view the .doc with OpenOffice 1.1.4 (open source and free, http://www.openoffice.org/). But it wasn't on page 148 for me, it was on page 132. I found it by searching for "DW_LANG_D".
> 
> jcc7

"John Demme" <me@teqdruid.com> wrote in message news:1122785162.12363.6.camel@localhost...
> I viewed it in Abiword...  Damn I hate the doc format.  Give me anything but doc.

I just can't see using doc format:

1) it's proprietary
2) it changes substantially with updates to Word
3) I can't read the contents without installing Word (the various Word
viewers, *including* the ones written by Microsoft, crash or fail on at
least a third of the doc files I try them on)
4) doc files can contain hidden viruses
5) doc files can contain arbitrary bits of uninitialized memory in them from
other programs, including things like passwords and personal data
6) doc files insert GUIDs specific to my computer
7) If you aren't careful, you'll wind up shipping a doc file with all your
embarassing or compromising old versions of the text hidden and embedded
within it.
8) Basically, I don't know and can't control what all is embedded in those
files.
9) How am I going to read those files 20, 30, 40 years from now? I still
have old Wordstar files I keep for legal reasons - fortunately, I have a
Wordstar => text file converter.

Frankly, any database file (such as documents, spreadsheets, accounts, etc.) should use a text based file format.

"John Demme" <me@teqdruid.com> wrote in message news:1122777734.12363.5.camel@localhost...
> Not to keep harking on it to be an annoyance, but is there any chance you'll fix the DWARF line numbering bug while you're in there?  (It'd be real nice)

I'm not sure what this is, is there a message here you can point to which details it?

Uhhh... Well, the bug is that is doesn't work- at all!  I've been yelling about it for a long, long time now.

http://www.digitalmars.com/drn-bin/wwwnews?digitalmars.D.bugs/3064

Is one of my posts about it.  I just tested again with DMD 0.127 and it still doesn't work.  I basically haven't been able to -ever- step through even a simple D program in GDB.  The above is not an isolated case, just an example.  When I try to step through a program that's linked with something like, say, Mango, it's even worse!

I thought you had told me in an email on 4/8/05 (if you save your emails) that you were aware of the issue.

-John Demme

On Sun, 2005-07-31 at 11:12 -0700, Walter wrote:
> "John Demme" <me@teqdruid.com> wrote in message news:1122777734.12363.5.camel@localhost...
> > Not to keep harking on it to be an annoyance, but is there any chance you'll fix the DWARF line numbering bug while you're in there?  (It'd be real nice)
> 
> I'm not sure what this is, is there a message here you can point to which details it?
> 
> 

I'll go look at it again. It was working the last time I tried it.

> Looks like we're lucky number 13.
>
13 is 0xD, so it's not that bad.

;-)