> Mr. Bright,
> IMHO You should redesign DM website according to design provided by Trevor
> Parscal (he submitted it few months ago). - It was really superior design I
> think. He also said he would volunteer to help You with it, but looks like
> nothing happened. I know Mr. Parscall and all I can say is that he's very
> skillfull guy (artist, musician, developer...).
> I think no-frames version would be nice for search engines - so the best
> would be to have both of them, and let visitor chose which one (s)he would
> use.

I think it is not so much the design that needs to be changed, but the *content*. As far as i remember, some people said that they want a more detailed/complete Phobos documentation, some inconsistencies in the specs fixed etc. Discussing the style over and over again is a waste of time in my opinion. The design is ok now, that's it. And 2 versions == more work.

Ciao
uwe

Sure, but if someone as skillfull as Trevor offers to do the job all by himself - why not? I think he could easily adopt all current content to new design. And someone else could do maybe this what you asid above - better documentation etc. Parscal made good template - web-application should simply use it, that is all.

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Dejan Lekic
  http://dejan.lekic.org

No. The frames was MUCH better in my opinion. Now you have to hit back everytime
you go to a page. The cool thing is that it is more organized. But maybe
something like msdn? Frames + folding menu?
If you keep it note this - http://www.digitalmars.com/d/index.html and
[...]/lex.html/phobos.html/comparison.html are different. The top line is
different and the padding is different.

In article <debngi$29kg$2@digitaldaemon.com>, Walter says...
>
>Improvement? Keep it?
>
>www.digitalmars.com/d/index.html
>
>

> I suppose someone can write a quick program to read all the phobos files and generate some HTML as an index.

Why not D/phobos/any other libs use something similar to "XML Comment" (Try
C# and Visual Studio)?
(Means a standardized and unambiguous way to comment on class, methods,
parameters and more.)
Help generation is much simpler then (and also, it would be really a big
thing, to use a (future) editor, where phobos (or other) calasses and
function information just pops up...)
Pretty pretty please...

ElfQT

In article <debngi$29kg$2@digitaldaemon.com>, Walter says...
>
>Improvement? Keep it?
>
>www.digitalmars.com/d/index.html
>
>

Walter, this is a huge improvment.  The site feels much less clustrophobic and more usable now.

- EricAnderton at yahoo

Walter wrote:
> Improvement? Keep it?
> 
> www.digitalmars.com/d/index.html
> 
> 

Definitely, this is tons better.

Keep it (as opposed to return to frames), but I personally still prefer Trevor Pascal's design.

"Walter" <newshound@digitalmars.com> wrote in message news:debngi$29kg$2@digitaldaemon.com...
> Improvement? Keep it?

Awful.  Not only does it look like a beginner HTML coder made the site, it's also a pain to navigate.  I miss the frames.

"Dejan Lekic" <leka@entropy.tmok.com> wrote in message news:dec3e1$2kbk$1@digitaldaemon.com...
>
> Mr. Bright,
> IMHO You should redesign DM website according to design provided by Trevor
> Parscal (he submitted it few months ago). - It was really superior design
I
> think. He also said he would volunteer to help You with it, but looks like
> nothing happened. I know Mr. Parscall and all I can say is that he's very
> skillfull guy (artist, musician, developer...).
> I think no-frames version would be nice for search engines - so the best
> would be to have both of them, and let visitor chose which one (s)he would
> use.

Trevor's web site design is really nice. The problem is, well, it's a lot of work to redo the web site.

Walter wrote:

> Improvement? Keep it?
> 
> www.digitalmars.com/d/index.html

I like it.

Lars Ivar Igesund

"Jarrett Billingsley" <kb3ctd2@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:ded3u7$hkf$1@digitaldaemon.com...
> Awful.  Not only does it look like a beginner HTML coder made the site,

No surprise there, I am a beginner html coder <g>.

> it's also a pain to navigate.  I miss the frames.

The problem with frames is that no other web sites use them for navigation, and too many people think it makes the website look clumsy and old-fashioned. One blind user wrote me that frames made it very difficult for him to navigate.

The last problem with frames is if you wind up at the page directly from, say, a search engine, one loses all the navigation.

Are the navigation problems you're experiencing with it something that is fixable without using frames?