Ameer Armaly wrote:
> "Sean Kelly" <sean@f4.ca> wrote in message news:drm2bl$vtf$1@digitaldaemon.com...
> 
>>Matthew wrote:
>>
>>>Thanks for that. Now I can just hate XP because it crashes, and three months
>>>after each re-install it decides that some COM object somewhere is missing
>>>so it can no longer save Word or Excel documents (or let you copy their
>>>contents).
>>
>>Weird.  XP has turned out to be at least as stable as 2000 for me.
>>
> 
> Same here; I've gotten it to hold up since June of 04 with no problems whatsoever.  But then again, I've been known for beeing a complete Nazi as to what goes in and out of my computer.
> 

XP is perfectly stable .. the only time it crashes on me is due to hardware faults.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Hasan Aljudy" <hasan.aljudy@gmail.com>
Newsgroups: digitalmars.D
Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 12:11 PM
Subject: Re: copy/paste XP cmd


> Ameer Armaly wrote:
>> "Sean Kelly" <sean@f4.ca> wrote in message news:drm2bl$vtf$1@digitaldaemon.com...
>>
>>>Matthew wrote:
>>>
>>>>Thanks for that. Now I can just hate XP because it crashes, and three
>>>>months
>>>>after each re-install it decides that some COM object somewhere is
>>>>missing
>>>>so it can no longer save Word or Excel documents (or let you copy their
>>>>contents).
>>>
>>>Weird.  XP has turned out to be at least as stable as 2000 for me.
>>>
>>
>> Same here; I've gotten it to hold up since June of 04 with no problems whatsoever.  But then again, I've been known for beeing a complete Nazi as to what goes in and out of my computer.
>>
>
> XP is perfectly stable .. the only time it crashes on me is due to hardware faults.

Well, I have it on two machines. It lasted one year on the laptop before going totally squiffy and requiring a reinstall. On the desktop it's been installed for 3 years, but every few months one less things works - I just can't face the reinstallation headache, so I use the Win2K boot.

While I'm happy for you and Sean that you have no major issues, 3 does not make a statistical sample, and in any case 33% of users thinking your product is a stinking pile of overengineered crap might make your sales manager happy, but it sure shouldn't make the head of development proud.

"Matthew" <matthew@stlsoft.com> wrote in message news:drp4ao$2d8o$1@digitaldaemon.com...
> While I'm happy for you and Sean that you have no major issues, 3 does not make a statistical sample, and in any case 33% of users thinking your product is a stinking pile of overengineered crap might make your sales manager happy, but it sure shouldn't make the head of development proud.

I've had fewer problems with XP than any of the previous Windows systems.

On Tue, 31 Jan 2006 18:30:44 -0800, Walter Bright <newshound@digitalmars.com> wrote:
> "Matthew" <matthew@stlsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:drp4ao$2d8o$1@digitaldaemon.com...
>> While I'm happy for you and Sean that you have no major issues, 3 does not
>> make a statistical sample, and in any case 33% of users thinking your
>> product is a stinking pile of overengineered crap might make your sales
>> manager happy, but it sure shouldn't make the head of development proud.
>
> I've had fewer problems with XP than any of the previous Windows systems.

+1 :)

Regan

On Wed, 1 Feb 2006 12:54:10 +1100, Matthew wrote:

[snip]

> While I'm happy for you and Sean that you have no major issues, 3 does not make a statistical sample ...

I've been using XP on a variety of machines (laptops, desktops, and servers) for a few years now and love its stability in comparison to other earlier Windows editions. I'm think I've had a blue-screen twice and both times it was a bad RAM chip. The biggest reason for rebooting now is to finish a software install.

-- 
Derek
(skype: derek.j.parnell)
Melbourne, Australia
"Down with mediocracy!"
1/02/2006 2:08:35 PM

Matthew wrote:
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hasan Aljudy" <hasan.aljudy@gmail.com>
> Newsgroups: digitalmars.D
> Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 12:11 PM
> Subject: Re: copy/paste XP cmd
> 
> 
> 
>>Ameer Armaly wrote:
>>
>>>"Sean Kelly" <sean@f4.ca> wrote in message news:drm2bl$vtf$1@digitaldaemon.com...
>>>
>>>
>>>>Matthew wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Thanks for that. Now I can just hate XP because it crashes, and three months
>>>>>after each re-install it decides that some COM object somewhere is missing
>>>>>so it can no longer save Word or Excel documents (or let you copy their
>>>>>contents).
>>>>
>>>>Weird.  XP has turned out to be at least as stable as 2000 for me.
>>>>
>>>
>>>Same here; I've gotten it to hold up since June of 04 with no problems whatsoever.  But then again, I've been known for beeing a complete Nazi as to what goes in and out of my computer.
>>>
>>
>>XP is perfectly stable .. the only time it crashes on me is due to hardware faults.
> 
> 
> Well, I have it on two machines. It lasted one year on the laptop before
> going totally squiffy and requiring a reinstall. On the desktop it's been
> installed for 3 years, but every few months one less things works - I just
> can't face the reinstallation headache, so I use the Win2K boot.
> 
> While I'm happy for you and Sean that you have no major issues, 3 does not
> make a statistical sample, and in any case 33% of users thinking your
> product is a stinking pile of overengineered crap might make your sales
> manager happy, but it sure shouldn't make the head of development proud.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

I think there are far more people unhappy with linux than there are people unhappy with windows.

Go to any computer science lecture room/theater, and ask students who uses windows and who uses linux! I think windows will always win, at least in my university!

Even better, ask how many people have linux installed, then ask those people, how many of you actually use it?
One prof asked us this question once; about 13 people raised their hands for "I installed linux on my machine", and only _one_ person raised his hand for "I actually use it!".

Walter Bright wrote:
> "Matthew" <matthew@stlsoft.com> wrote in message news:drp4ao$2d8o$1@digitaldaemon.com...
>> While I'm happy for you and Sean that you have no major issues, 3 does not
>> make a statistical sample, and in any case 33% of users thinking your
>> product is a stinking pile of overengineered crap might make your sales
>> manager happy, but it sure shouldn't make the head of development proud.
> 
> I've had fewer problems with XP than any of the previous Windows systems. 
> 
> 


I think it depends on what you use XP for and how intensely you use it.  If you just use it for the same thing all the time... like mere text editing and software development :), XP likely stays rock solid and probably will remain that way for a long time as long as you don't install new programs every month.

On the other hand, if you try to use it for any sort of multimedia, gaming, video-editing, or other system-intensive application, I think you will begin to see that XP isn't very stable at all.  Graphics drivers can be horribly unstable.

Video editing software and games are particularly hard on XP.

Frankly though, I find XP hugely more stable than the previous OSes offered by Microsoft... but still far too bloated with unnecessary background services.

-JJR

Walter Bright wrote:
> "Matthew" <matthew@stlsoft.com> wrote in message news:drp4ao$2d8o$1@digitaldaemon.com...
>> While I'm happy for you and Sean that you have no major issues, 3 does not
>> make a statistical sample, and in any case 33% of users thinking your
>> product is a stinking pile of overengineered crap might make your sales
>> manager happy, but it sure shouldn't make the head of development proud.
> 
> I've had fewer problems with XP than any of the previous Windows systems. 

That's it exactly.  It's not that XP is a "good" OS in some abstract sense so much as that it's at least marginally better than previous versions.  It still suffers from creeping bloat, etc, that's plagued all versions of Windows since 3.1.


Sean

Derek Parnell wrote:
> 
> I've been using XP on a variety of machines (laptops, desktops, and
> servers) for a few years now and love its stability in comparison to other
> earlier Windows editions. I'm think I've had a blue-screen twice and both
> times it was a bad RAM chip. The biggest reason for rebooting now is to
> finish a software install.

I used to bluescreen XP like crazy, but since I removed Windows Services for Unix and turned off a few irritating services that IT installed the problem has disappeared.  Overall, I think XP is the most stable Windows so far, even if it is only a marginal improvement over 2000.


Sean

"John Reimer" <terminal.node@gmail.com> wrote in message news:drpe9p$2ov1$1@digitaldaemon.com...
> I think it depends on what you use XP for and how intensely you use it. If you just use it for the same thing all the time... like mere text editing and software development :), XP likely stays rock solid and probably will remain that way for a long time as long as you don't install new programs every month.

IExplorer used to crash regularly. It's not so bad lately.

> On the other hand, if you try to use it for any sort of multimedia, gaming, video-editing, or other system-intensive application, I think you will begin to see that XP isn't very stable at all.  Graphics drivers can be horribly unstable.

I don't install games on my work PC - there's a separate one for that. One reason is I don't care for the gaming rootkits being installed (like starforce) or other spyware nonsense. With the gaming PC, it just gets a disk wipe and a fresh install of the OS now and then <g>.

I still have to regularly reboot in order to get the printer to work.

> Video editing software and games are particularly hard on XP.

Funny you should say that. I once tried to edit video on my PC. I tried several packages - NONE of which would work. All kinds of wierd crashes would happen, and all I tried doing was the *simplest* things like just importing a video clip. Since each package would crash on a different part of the process, I was able to edit my video together using bits and pieces from each video suite. I finally concluded that video editting simply wasn't ready for prime time and abandoned it.