Jari-Matti Mäkelä wrote:
> Unless you're a commercial compiler writer it should definitely be
> better for you to use a GPL'ed compiler. Well, at least I don't like
> potential hidden back door features of closed source compilers.
> 

Does any of the people who say such things do actually look at the entire source code of every single program before they use it?

Even more funny, is when people say that you can modify linux kernel to suit your needs!! Yeah Right!! Who's gonna do that?

Hasan Aljudy wrote:
> Jari-Matti Mäkelä wrote:
>> Unless you're a commercial compiler writer it should definitely be better for you to use a GPL'ed compiler. Well, at least I don't like potential hidden back door features of closed source compilers.
>>
> 
> Does any of the people who say such things do actually look at the entire source code of every single program before they use it?

Most probably not, otherwise there would not be things like 'app-get/aptitude/emerge moo' or OO.org easter eggs. :) Still I don't believe that open source developers have very sinister thoughts. How else can you explain the small number of linux/bsd worms and viruses? Their market share on the server side is >25% (according to the wikipedia page about linux), but even Amiga has more active viruses.

> 
> Even more funny, is when people say that you can modify linux kernel to suit your needs!! Yeah Right!! Who's gonna do that?

I agree. Not every person should be required to hack or recompile their kernels. Now that open source is becoming more and more common there are linux users that don't know anything about their computers (70y old grannies). But there will be small shops that sell customized solutions to schools, corporations and "rich" private persons. I guess bigger corporations are able to do some patching themselves.

At least some Gentoo/Arch users want combined bleeding-edge reiser4/xen/openmosix support on their kernels and are willing to manually patch theirs.

-- 
Jari-Matti

OpenSource make the software technology returned to developer, and we can
make/got much more perfect software.
The big commercial company can't or hard to do this. ( such as EJB, ISOed
C++, Windows ), because $ is more important than
software and technology.

We must know that D is a complicated system language, not a script/dynamic language, it's hard to make it success as soon as possible.

We need a success, not only a runnable product!

I think that, without opensouce, some hackers can't take part in this game;
without opensouce, a little company can't make D success, and
without opensouce, D community can't be stronger

"David Medlock" <noone@nowhere.com> ??????:e22j3u$2koj$1@digitaldaemon.com...
> Boris Wang wrote:
>> I like the D very much, just like other developers.
>>
>> but, i feel that the core development of D is too slow.
>>
>> Where the mail list about development of D?
>>
>> D is GPLed?
>>
>> If D not GPL, IT WILL DIE!
>>
>> WHY NOT DO IT LIKE LINUX?
> GPL is poison to a lot of business interests, vis a vis software which they must release with their products.
>
> If non-GPL is so bad, what is the deal with Apache and Mozilla?  Is their popularity a fluke?
>
> -DavidM
> 

Boris Wang wrote:

> I think that, without opensouce, some hackers can't take part in this game; without opensouce, a little company can't make D success, and
> without opensouce, D community can't be stronger

GDC *is* open source (GPL license), so feel free to hack away there...

The current release (GDC 0.17) corresponds to DMD 0.140, so it needs
some updating to catch up with all the latest Digital Mars features ?


Or you could still just *use* the D language to write some code, without taking part in the language development ? Both aspects needs assistance.

For instance, there are plenty of D projects at dsource and sourceforge.

--anders

Wolfgang Draxinger wrote:
> Walter, does DMC handle things in the same way like GCC or uses
> it a completely different approach?

I don't know how gcc handles things. I purposely have not looked at the source to it.

In article <e2a3fm$uvv$1@digitaldaemon.com>, Walter Bright says...
>
>Wolfgang Draxinger wrote:
>> Walter, does DMC handle things in the same way like GCC or uses it a completely different approach?
>
>I don't know how gcc handles things. I purposely have not looked at the source to it.

That's probably very wise.  I hear that Marlon Brando looked through gcc's register allocation code to prepare for his role in Apocalypse Now.

Kevin