Pragma wrote:
> Gregor Richards wrote:
>> OK, I've collected some I like and would be willing to change to, please vote in this thread. Choices:
>>
>> * dsss [eg don't change it]
>> * ondmand
>> * dmand
>> * dsire or desire
>> * dserve
>> * svd
>> * d3s or ds3 [I don't like this one at all, I feel it's even more difficult to type than dsss, but I'll put it in for good measure ... sorry Pragma :)]
> 
> That's not a problem at all. I firmly believe in airing *all* the possible suggestions, even if they're not always stellar.  That's because "good" is highly subjective when it comes to things like this.
> 
> Edison: "Genius is one per cent inspiration, ninety-nine per cent perspiration."
> 
> Which follows up to a corollary that is often attributed to him: "I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work."
> 
> You'll find the right name for this thing.  The question is: will you have to sit down with the 'D' section of the encyclopedia to do it? ;)
> 
> 
> PS,
> Not to thread-jack, but I found this blurb on Wikipedia, that sounded eerily like another stereotype that we're all too familiar with around here:
> 
> The day after Edison died the New York Times contained extensive coverage of Edison's life, with the only negative opinion coming from Tesla who was quoted as saying, "He had no hobby, cared for no sort of amusement of any kind and lived in utter disregard of the most elementary rules of hygiene"
> 

Tesla and Edison didn't like each other due to the AC vs. DC power war. Tesla was pretty awesome, though, just look at his lab.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikola_Tesla
http://www.leyada.jlm.k12.il/proj/edsntsla/hist3.htm

clayasaurus wrote:
> Pragma wrote:
>> Gregor Richards wrote:
>>> OK, I've collected some I like and would be willing to change to, please vote in this thread. Choices:
>>>
>>> * dsss [eg don't change it]
>>> * ondmand
>>> * dmand
>>> * dsire or desire
>>> * dserve
>>> * svd
>>> * d3s or ds3 [I don't like this one at all, I feel it's even more difficult to type than dsss, but I'll put it in for good measure ... sorry Pragma :)]
>>
>> That's not a problem at all. I firmly believe in airing *all* the possible suggestions, even if they're not always stellar.  That's because "good" is highly subjective when it comes to things like this.
>>
>> Edison: "Genius is one per cent inspiration, ninety-nine per cent perspiration."
>>
>> Which follows up to a corollary that is often attributed to him: "I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work."
>>
>> You'll find the right name for this thing.  The question is: will you have to sit down with the 'D' section of the encyclopedia to do it? ;)
>>
>>
>> PS,
>> Not to thread-jack, but I found this blurb on Wikipedia, that sounded eerily like another stereotype that we're all too familiar with around here:
>>
>> The day after Edison died the New York Times contained extensive coverage of Edison's life, with the only negative opinion coming from Tesla who was quoted as saying, "He had no hobby, cared for no sort of amusement of any kind and lived in utter disregard of the most elementary rules of hygiene"
>>
> 
> Tesla and Edison didn't like each other due to the AC vs. DC power war. Tesla was pretty awesome, though, just look at his lab.
> 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikola_Tesla
> http://www.leyada.jlm.k12.il/proj/edsntsla/hist3.htm
> 

PS:

"Later that year the US Supreme Court upheld Tesla's patent number 645,576 in effect recognizing him as the inventor of radio."

"Immediately after Tesla's death became known, the Federal Bureau of Investigation instructed the Office of Alien Property to take possession of his papers and property, despite his US citizenship."

"Tesla had been continuing work on the teleforce weapon, or death ray, that he had unsuccessfully marketed to the US War Department. It appears that his proposed death ray was related to his research into ball lightning and plasma and was composed of a particle beam weapon. The US government did not find a prototype of the device in the safe. After the FBI was contacted by the War Department, his papers were declared to be top secret."

I mean, wow! :)

~ Clay

Gregor Richards wrote:
> OK, I've collected some I like and would be willing to change to, please vote in this thread. Choices:
> 
> * dsss [eg don't change it]
> * ondmand
> * dmand
> * dsire or desire
> * dserve
> * svd
> * d3s or ds3 [I don't like this one at all, I feel it's even more difficult to type than dsss, but I'll put it in for good measure ... sorry Pragma :)]
> 
>  - Gregor Richards

dmand++;

--
Tom;

Gregor Richards wrote:
> For what it's worth, my vote is to stick with 'dsss', but I will listen to and maybe even consider other votes ;)
> 
>  - Gregor Richards

My vote too.  DSSS pwnz.  And I'm not listening to any other ones.  (hands over ears, and I quote "blah blah blah blah blah blah blah")


BA

Gregor Richards wrote:
> Some people have voiced dislike of my choice of the name 'dsss' for DSSS' binary, because it's difficult to type repeatedly.
> 
> I'm taking suggestions/votes for a new name, before DSSS is old enough that it's beaten into anyone's heads.  This name only covers the binary, the actual system is still going to be the D Shared Software System.
> 
>  - Gregor Richards

The voting is over.  DSSS stays 'dsss'

There was a tie between dsss and ondmand, as maintainer I am the tiebreaker, so foo to you.

The results, calculated with both flat voting and split-vote instant runoff (which produce the same results but SVIR is more interesting ;) ), are below

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

VOTES
-----

Tom
dmand

Samuel MV
dsss

Pragma
ds3

Nils Hensel
dmand

Michael Worcester
[on]dmand

Mark Wrenn
dsss

Lars Ivar Igesund
svd

John Reimer
dsrc, dmand, dserve

Gregor Richards
dsss

Don Clugston
dserve, dmand

Chris Nicholson-Sauls
dsss, desire, dsrc

Brad Anderson
dsss

Ary Manzana
dserve

Alexander Panek
dsrc

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

FLAT VOTE
---------
dmand: 5
dsss: 5
dserve: 3
dsrc: 3
desire: 1
ds3: 1
svd: 1



--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

SPLIT-VOTE INSTANT RUNOFF ROUND 1
---------------------------------
dsss: 4.33
dmand: 3.83
dserve: 1.83
dsrc: 1.66
ds3: 1
svd: 1
desire: .33

Tally
-----
Tom: dmand
Samuel MV: dsss
Pragma: ds3
Nils Hensel: dmand
Michael Worcester: [on]dmand
Mark Wrenn: dsss
Lars Ivar Igesund: svd
John Reimer: dsrc, dmand, dserve
Gregor Richards: dsss
Don Clugston: dserve, dmand
Chris Nicholson-Sauls: dsss, desire, dsrc
Brad Anderson: dsss
Ary Manzana: dserve
Alexander Panek: dsrc


------------------------------------------------------------

SPLIT-VOTE INSTANT RUNOFF ROUND 2
---------------------------------
dsss: 4.5
dmand: 3.83
dserve: 1.83
dsrc: 1.83
ds3: 1
svd: 1

Tally
-----
Tom: dmand
Samuel MV: dsss
Pragma: ds3
Nils Hensel: dmand
Michael Worcester: [on]dmand
Mark Wrenn: dsss
Lars Ivar Igesund: svd
John Reimer: dsrc, dmand, dserve
Gregor Richards: dsss
Don Clugston: dserve, dmand
Chris Nicholson-Sauls: dsss, dsrc
Brad Anderson: dsss
Ary Manzana: dserve
Alexander Panek: dsrc


------------------------------------------------------------

SPLIT-VOTE INSTANT RUNOFF ROUND 3
---------------------------------
dsss: 4.5
dmand: 3.83
dserve: 1.83
dsrc: 1.83
ds3: 1

Tally
-----
Tom: dmand
Samuel MV: dsss
Pragma: ds3
Nils Hensel: dmand
Michael Worcester: [on]dmand
Mark Wrenn: dsss
John Reimer: dsrc, dmand, dserve
Gregor Richards: dsss
Don Clugston: dserve, dmand
Chris Nicholson-Sauls: dsss, dsrc
Brad Anderson: dsss
Ary Manzana: dserve
Alexander Panek: dsrc


------------------------------------------------------------

SPLIT-VOTE INSTANT RUNOFF ROUND 4
---------------------------------
dsss: 4.5
dmand: 3.83
dserve: 1.83
dsrc: 1.83

Tally
-----
Tom: dmand
Samuel MV: dsss
Nils Hensel: dmand
Michael Worcester: [on]dmand
Mark Wrenn: dsss
John Reimer: dsrc, dmand, dserve
Gregor Richards: dsss
Don Clugston: dserve, dmand
Chris Nicholson-Sauls: dsss, dsrc
Brad Anderson: dsss
Ary Manzana: dserve
Alexander Panek: dsrc


------------------------------------------------------------

SPLIT-VOTE INSTANT RUNOFF ROUND 5
---------------------------------
dsss: 5
dmand: 4
dserve: 2

Tally
-----
Tom: dmand
Samuel MV: dsss
Nils Hensel: dmand
Michael Worcester: [on]dmand
Mark Wrenn: dsss
John Reimer: dmand, dserve
Gregor Richards: dsss
Don Clugston: dserve, dmand
Chris Nicholson-Sauls: dsss
Brad Anderson: dsss
Ary Manzana: dserve


------------------------------------------------------------

SPLIT-VOTE INSTANT RUNOFF ROUND 6
---------------------------------
dsss: 5
dmand: 5

Tally
-----
Tom: dmand
Samuel MV: dsss
Nils Hensel: dmand
Michael Worcester: [on]dmand
Mark Wrenn: dsss
John Reimer: dmand
Gregor Richards: dsss
Don Clugston: dmand
Chris Nicholson-Sauls: dsss
Brad Anderson: dsss

Gregor Richards wrote:
> Gregor Richards wrote:
>> Some people have voiced dislike of my choice of the name 'dsss' for DSSS' binary, because it's difficult to type repeatedly.
>>
>> I'm taking suggestions/votes for a new name, before DSSS is old enough that it's beaten into anyone's heads.  This name only covers the binary, the actual system is still going to be the D Shared Software System.
>>
>>  - Gregor Richards
> 
> The voting is over.  DSSS stays 'dsss'
> 
> There was a tie between dsss and ondmand, as maintainer I am the tiebreaker, so foo to you.
> 
> The results, calculated with both flat voting and split-vote instant runoff (which produce the same results but SVIR is more interesting ;) ), are below
> 
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 
> 
> 
> VOTES
> -----
> 
> Tom
> dmand
> 
> Samuel MV
> dsss
> 
> Pragma
> ds3
> 
> Nils Hensel
> dmand
> 
> Michael Worcester
> [on]dmand
> 
> Mark Wrenn
> dsss
> 
> Lars Ivar Igesund
> svd
> 
> John Reimer
> dsrc, dmand, dserve
> 
> Gregor Richards
> dsss
> 
> Don Clugston
> dserve, dmand
> 
> Chris Nicholson-Sauls
> dsss, desire, dsrc
> 
> Brad Anderson
> dsss
> 
> Ary Manzana
> dserve
> 
> Alexander Panek
> dsrc
> 
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 
> 
> 
> FLAT VOTE
> ---------
> dmand: 5
> dsss: 5
> dserve: 3
> dsrc: 3
> desire: 1
> ds3: 1
> svd: 1
> 
> 
> 
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 
> 
> 
> SPLIT-VOTE INSTANT RUNOFF ROUND 1
> ---------------------------------
> dsss: 4.33
> dmand: 3.83
> dserve: 1.83
> dsrc: 1.66
> ds3: 1
> svd: 1
> desire: .33
> 
> Tally
> -----
> Tom: dmand
> Samuel MV: dsss
> Pragma: ds3
> Nils Hensel: dmand
> Michael Worcester: [on]dmand
> Mark Wrenn: dsss
> Lars Ivar Igesund: svd
> John Reimer: dsrc, dmand, dserve
> Gregor Richards: dsss
> Don Clugston: dserve, dmand
> Chris Nicholson-Sauls: dsss, desire, dsrc
> Brad Anderson: dsss
> Ary Manzana: dserve
> Alexander Panek: dsrc
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> SPLIT-VOTE INSTANT RUNOFF ROUND 2
> ---------------------------------
> dsss: 4.5
> dmand: 3.83
> dserve: 1.83
> dsrc: 1.83
> ds3: 1
> svd: 1
> 
> Tally
> -----
> Tom: dmand
> Samuel MV: dsss
> Pragma: ds3
> Nils Hensel: dmand
> Michael Worcester: [on]dmand
> Mark Wrenn: dsss
> Lars Ivar Igesund: svd
> John Reimer: dsrc, dmand, dserve
> Gregor Richards: dsss
> Don Clugston: dserve, dmand
> Chris Nicholson-Sauls: dsss, dsrc
> Brad Anderson: dsss
> Ary Manzana: dserve
> Alexander Panek: dsrc
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> SPLIT-VOTE INSTANT RUNOFF ROUND 3
> ---------------------------------
> dsss: 4.5
> dmand: 3.83
> dserve: 1.83
> dsrc: 1.83
> ds3: 1
> 
> Tally
> -----
> Tom: dmand
> Samuel MV: dsss
> Pragma: ds3
> Nils Hensel: dmand
> Michael Worcester: [on]dmand
> Mark Wrenn: dsss
> John Reimer: dsrc, dmand, dserve
> Gregor Richards: dsss
> Don Clugston: dserve, dmand
> Chris Nicholson-Sauls: dsss, dsrc
> Brad Anderson: dsss
> Ary Manzana: dserve
> Alexander Panek: dsrc
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> SPLIT-VOTE INSTANT RUNOFF ROUND 4
> ---------------------------------
> dsss: 4.5
> dmand: 3.83
> dserve: 1.83
> dsrc: 1.83
> 
> Tally
> -----
> Tom: dmand
> Samuel MV: dsss
> Nils Hensel: dmand
> Michael Worcester: [on]dmand
> Mark Wrenn: dsss
> John Reimer: dsrc, dmand, dserve
> Gregor Richards: dsss
> Don Clugston: dserve, dmand
> Chris Nicholson-Sauls: dsss, dsrc
> Brad Anderson: dsss
> Ary Manzana: dserve
> Alexander Panek: dsrc
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> SPLIT-VOTE INSTANT RUNOFF ROUND 5
> ---------------------------------
> dsss: 5
> dmand: 4
> dserve: 2
> 
> Tally
> -----
> Tom: dmand
> Samuel MV: dsss
> Nils Hensel: dmand
> Michael Worcester: [on]dmand
> Mark Wrenn: dsss
> John Reimer: dmand, dserve
> Gregor Richards: dsss
> Don Clugston: dserve, dmand
> Chris Nicholson-Sauls: dsss
> Brad Anderson: dsss
> Ary Manzana: dserve
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> SPLIT-VOTE INSTANT RUNOFF ROUND 6
> ---------------------------------
> dsss: 5
> dmand: 5
> 
> Tally
> -----
> Tom: dmand
> Samuel MV: dsss
> Nils Hensel: dmand
> Michael Worcester: [on]dmand
> Mark Wrenn: dsss
> John Reimer: dmand
> Gregor Richards: dsss
> Don Clugston: dmand
> Chris Nicholson-Sauls: dsss
> Brad Anderson: dsss

dmand, dserve, or dmerge all get my vote. dsss wont stick in heads as well as these.

Kyle Furlong wrote:
> 
> dmand, dserve, or dmerge all get my vote. dsss wont stick in heads as well as these.

This guy might have a point, 'dsss' is not a name that sticks.  And it doesn't exactly roll off the tongue.  I think it would be nice to give what might become a central tool for D users a more branding-friendly everyday name.  And one that is easier to pronounce.

So I'd like to suggest 'dsoft' as the new name.  Simple and descriptive, almost to the point of being boring.  It's only two syllables, and completely without any puns.

$ dsss net install mango
$ dsoft net install mango

Gregor Richards wrote:

> Some people have voiced dislike of my choice of the name 'dsss' for DSSS' binary, because it's difficult to type repeatedly.

They better learn how to use alias'es in shells. Or:

$ echo -e "all: *\n\tdsss build" > Makefile

and use "make" instead of dsss build



Don't change the name. It's perfectly fine. Not too long, not too short, easy to remember and unique enough.

Pragma wrote:

> The day after Edison died the New York Times contained extensive coverage of Edison's life, with the only negative opinion coming from Tesla who was quoted as saying, "He had no hobby, cared for no sort of amusement of any kind and lived in utter disregard of the most elementary rules of hygiene"

Hey, another D hacker!!

Next thing you tell me, Blaise P. was into D too? Or Ada L.? But she'd be disgusting like that. Naw, she can't be.

georg

-----

PS, before proofreading I had written Linda instead of Ada.
Laughed out loud when I noticed the Freudian. :-)

Gregor Richards wrote:
> I'm being convinced on IRC to add 'dsrc' to the list, even though it's ambiguous.
> 
> Brad Anderson has put forth that he doesn't mind the ambiguity.
> 
> +1 vote to dsrc from Alexander Panek.

By this time I'm really confused. Wasn't this supposed to be about "too hard to type"? "dsrc" sure isn't any easier than "dsss".

I vote for "dsss".