Thread overview
Kickoff of Drokue
Jan 04, 2007
Manfred Nowak
Jan 04, 2007
John Reimer
Jan 05, 2007
jcc7
Jan 08, 2007
Charles D Hixson
January 04, 2007
Drokue http://www.mjoelk.de/drokue
is a rogue to the Digital Mars D programming language.

The purpose of drokue is to accompany the evolution of Digital Mars D by decorating it with further elements.

Drokue's vision is to explore D's capabilities to

 * be augmented by further syntactical constructs
 * serve domain specific adaptations like ad-hoc defined syntactical
   sugar
 * diverse into domain specific languages by building in support for
   compiler construction.
 * control work and information flow of programs by building in support
   for protocols

The base for this spin-off was laid in the thread containing http://www.digitalmars.com/pnews/read.php? server=news.digitalmars.com&group=digitalmars.D&artnum=45660

Manfred_Nowak
January 04, 2007
On Thu, 04 Jan 2007 04:09:27 +0000, Manfred Nowak wrote:

> Drokue http://www.mjoelk.de/drokue
> is a rogue to the Digital Mars D programming language.
> 
> The purpose of drokue is to accompany the evolution of Digital Mars D by decorating it with further elements.
> 
> Drokue's vision is to explore D's capabilities to
> 
>  * be augmented by further syntactical constructs
>  * serve domain specific adaptations like ad-hoc defined syntactical
>    sugar
>  * diverse into domain specific languages by building in support for
>    compiler construction.
>  * control work and information flow of programs by building in support
>    for protocols
> 
> The base for this spin-off was laid in the thread containing http://www.digitalmars.com/pnews/read.php? server=news.digitalmars.com&group=digitalmars.D&artnum=45660
> 
> Manfred_Nowak


What are we to do with you, Mandfred?  You're too late and too rogue-ish! :D

-JJR
January 05, 2007
John Reimer Wrote:

> On Thu, 04 Jan 2007 04:09:27 +0000, Manfred Nowak wrote:
> 
> > Drokue http://www.mjoelk.de/drokue
> > is a rogue to the Digital Mars D programming language.
> > 
> > The purpose of drokue is to accompany the evolution of Digital Mars D by decorating it with further elements.
> > 
> > Drokue's vision is to explore D's capabilities to
> > 
> >  * be augmented by further syntactical constructs
> >  * serve domain specific adaptations like ad-hoc defined syntactical
> >    sugar
> >  * diverse into domain specific languages by building in support for
> >    compiler construction.
> >  * control work and information flow of programs by building in support
> >    for protocols
> > 
> > The base for this spin-off was laid in the thread containing http://www.digitalmars.com/pnews/read.php? server=news.digitalmars.com&group=digitalmars.D&artnum=45660
> > 
> > Manfred_Nowak
> 
> 
> What are we to do with you, Mandfred?  You're too late and too rogue-ish! :D
> 
> -JJR

I agree.

But I think Drokue is already at least as successful as http://gnu-d.org was. ;)

http://www.digitalmars.com/d/archives/digitalmars/D/announce/3589.html http://www.digitalmars.com/d/archives/D/gnu/1836.html

jcc7
January 08, 2007
Manfred Nowak wrote:
> Drokue http://www.mjoelk.de/drokue
> is a rogue to the Digital Mars D programming language. 
> 
> The purpose of drokue is to accompany the evolution of Digital Mars D by decorating it with further elements. 
> 
> Drokue's vision is to explore D's capabilities to 
> 
>  * be augmented by further syntactical constructs
>  * serve domain specific adaptations like ad-hoc defined syntactical
>    sugar
>  * diverse into domain specific languages by building in support for
>    compiler construction.
>  * control work and information flow of programs by building in support
>    for protocols
> 
> The base for this spin-off was laid in the thread containing http://www.digitalmars.com/pnews/read.php?
> server=news.digitalmars.com&group=digitalmars.D&artnum=45660
> 
> Manfred_Nowak

A reasonable idea, and it did say that it should be based around D 1.0, which makes this timely.  OTOH, there's no indication of a direction.  In what way is this designed to differ from D?

The only reasonable extension that occurs to me is an kind of interpreter version with dynamic objects.  This is less needed in D than in many languages, but it would provide coverage of a part of the language continuum that D doesn't attempt to handle.  Currently this is being addressed by, e.g., PyD, which links Python with D.  I can see a use for a more strictly D superset that made easy linkage to D.  Several similar ideas have been implemented for other languages, e.g., goo & Java.  If you do this I would suggest that you carefully address the problems of persistent objects, specifically how to reload them without knowing the type of the object in advance.  (See Python's Pickle.)

That said... do you believe that you can manage enough support to create a viable branch to do such?  The D community is rather small, and I'm not certain that it's large enough to support a major fork.  (GDC doesn't really count, as it attempt to maintain strict compatibility with DMD, and shares a part of the same code base.)