Does anyone else use the Web interface to read this newsgroup?

The old one was ok but the PHP News Reader is pretty worthless. In fact I hardly ever visit this group because of that.

Maybe just create a new D newsgroup under google groups which would have way more capabilties.

   comp.lang.d  would be nice but it seems that it is really hard
these days to start a usenet group [of course comp.lang.deadlongago
is still out there.]

Mark T wrote:
> Does anyone else use the Web interface to read this newsgroup?
> 
> The old one was ok but the PHP News Reader is pretty worthless.
> In fact I hardly ever visit this group because of that.

Did you try http://www.digitalmars.com/webnews/newsgroups.php ?
It seems to be much better than the normal web interface. I haven't used it much though, I much prefer Thunderbird to the web interfaces.

Mark T wrote:
<snip>
> Maybe just create a new D newsgroup under google groups which would
> have way more capabilties.
<snip>

IMO this would just split up the community.  Better would be if only Google would add our D newsgroups.

How would one go about getting the 'groups out onto Usenet?  This might help, but on the other hand....

Stewart.

Mark T wrote:
> Does anyone else use the Web interface to read this newsgroup?
> 
> The old one was ok but the PHP News Reader is pretty worthless.
> In fact I hardly ever visit this group because of that.
> 
> Maybe just create a new D newsgroup under google groups which would
> have way more capabilties.
> 
>    comp.lang.d  would be nice but it seems that it is really hard
> these days to start a usenet group [of course comp.lang.deadlongago
> is still out there.]

Why not just set it up a reader locally on your system and be done with it? Thunderbird is great.

Reply to Mark,

> Does anyone else use the Web interface to read this newsgroup?
> 
> The old one was ok but the PHP News Reader is pretty worthless. In
> fact I hardly ever visit this group because of that.
> 
> Maybe just create a new D newsgroup under google groups which would
> have way more capabilties.
> 
> comp.lang.d  would be nice but it seems that it is really hard
> these days to start a usenet group [of course comp.lang.deadlongago is
> still out there.]
> 

As said before, the web client isn't the best way to access an NNTP newsgroups. I've been trying out JetBrains Omea Reader. (I kept having t-bird lose about 10K posts and then try to re-download them)

Mark T wrote:
> Does anyone else use the Web interface to read this newsgroup?
> 
> The old one was ok but the PHP News Reader is pretty worthless.
> In fact I hardly ever visit this group because of that.
> 
> Maybe just create a new D newsgroup under google groups which would
> have way more capabilties.
> 
>    comp.lang.d  would be nice but it seems that it is really hard
> these days to start a usenet group [of course comp.lang.deadlongago
> is still out there.]

I agree with the other regulars, thunderbird, or another comparable newsreader client is perfect. I run it just to contribute here.

Mark T wrote:
> Does anyone else use the Web interface to read this newsgroup?
> 
> The old one was ok but the PHP News Reader is pretty worthless.
> In fact I hardly ever visit this group because of that.

Most people use something like Thunderbird. If I were forced to use the current web interface however, I would indeed hardly visit this newsgroup.

> Maybe just create a new D newsgroup under google groups which would
> have way more capabilties.
> 
>    comp.lang.d  would be nice but it seems that it is really hard
> these days to start a usenet group [of course comp.lang.deadlongago
> is still out there.]

This newsgroup is just fine, it's the default web interface that sucks.

It is not 'really' a problem, since failing to use a good reader there are web interfaces available now that do not suck, one has been mentioned.

But it IS a problem. I suspect there are a lot of people who (try) to use the web interface. That a good reader is much better is not changing that fact. The current one puts people off too much. 'PR-wise' I think it makes quite a difference, and what is the effort of changing the default web interface?

On Thu, 11 Jan 2007 14:40:29 +0900, Mike Parker wrote:

> Mark T wrote:
>> Does anyone else use the Web interface to read this newsgroup?
>> 
>> The old one was ok but the PHP News Reader is pretty worthless. In fact I hardly ever visit this group because of that.
>> 
>> Maybe just create a new D newsgroup under google groups which would have way more capabilties.
>> 
>>    comp.lang.d  would be nice but it seems that it is really hard
>> these days to start a usenet group [of course comp.lang.deadlongago
>> is still out there.]
> 
> Why not just set it up a reader locally on your system and be done with it? Thunderbird is great.


I used to use Thunderbird, but it had some strange issues with phantom posts now and again.  It wasn't bad... but it wasn't great either. :)

I decided to try "pan".  I used the lightweight newsreader often on Linux and was pleased to see it available for win32 as well (be sure to download the gtk shared libraries for win32 first):

http://pan.rebelbase.com/download/

For those of us who haven't quite succeeded in migrating away from win32 completely, it's a great choice.

-JJR

John Reimer wrote:
> On Thu, 11 Jan 2007 14:40:29 +0900, Mike Parker wrote:
> 
>> Mark T wrote:
>>> Does anyone else use the Web interface to read this newsgroup?
>>>
>>> The old one was ok but the PHP News Reader is pretty worthless.
>>> In fact I hardly ever visit this group because of that.
>>>
>>> Maybe just create a new D newsgroup under google groups which would
>>> have way more capabilties.
>>>
>>>    comp.lang.d  would be nice but it seems that it is really hard
>>> these days to start a usenet group [of course comp.lang.deadlongago
>>> is still out there.]
>> Why not just set it up a reader locally on your system and be done with it? Thunderbird is great.
> 
> I used to use Thunderbird, but it had some strange issues with phantom
> posts now and again.  It wasn't bad... but it wasn't great either. :)

I've run into this as well.  I think it may be related to canceled posts.  One trick I've found to fix this for at least some situations is to post something, open it and read it in Thunderbird, then cancel it.


Sean

== Quote from Lutger (lutger.blijdestijn@gmail.com)'s article
> This newsgroup is just fine, it's the default web interface that sucks.
> It is not 'really' a problem, since failing to use a good reader there
> are web interfaces available now that do not suck, one has been mentioned.
> But it IS a problem. I suspect there are a lot of people who (try) to
> use the web interface. That a good reader is much better is not changing
> that fact. The current one puts people off too much. 'PR-wise' I think
> it makes quite a difference, and what is the effort of changing the
> default web interface?

Some of us want to read these forums from work where we can't install our own reader and/or have a firewall blocking it from working. For us , a better web interface would be a huge enhancement and would allow us to join the community more.

Michael