February 24, 2007
Michiel wrote:
> Alberto wrote:
> 
>>> I've used Flash 9 now for a couple of months. Is the 'official' version not in portage yet?
>>>
>> there is net-www/netscape-flash-9.0.31.0, that is stable: KEYWORDS="-* amd64 x86"
>>
>> that from the adobe site:
>>
>>  Version: 9,0,31,0
>>  Platform: Linux
>>  Browser: Firefox, Mozilla, SeaMonkey
>>  Date Posted: 1/16/2007
>>  Language: English
>>
>> it is the lastest flash version (and the ufficial)
> 
> Right. I've used that version for a good while now. The sound still doesn't work.
> 

can you paste me "lsof | grep snd"

if you don't have lsof, emerge lsof

The reason why I say this is because if you have a device using the old oss interface, I've seen my sound not work before. running that command, I can find out what devices are using my sound, to close them
February 24, 2007
kenny wrote:

> can you paste me "lsof | grep snd"
> 
> if you don't have lsof, emerge lsof
> 
> The reason why I say this is because if you have a device using the old oss interface, I've seen my sound not work before. running that command, I can find out what devices are using my sound, to close them

The output is empty.

Though let me clarify: I do get sound out of other applications (like Xine). But only one application at a time.

Any ideas?

-- 
Michiel
February 25, 2007
Michiel wrote:
> kenny wrote:
> 
>> can you paste me "lsof | grep snd"
>>
>> if you don't have lsof, emerge lsof
>>
>> The reason why I say this is because if you have a device using the old oss interface, I've seen my sound not work before. running that command, I can find out what devices are using my sound, to close them
> 
> The output is empty.
> 
> Though let me clarify: I do get sound out of other applications (like Xine). But only one application at a time.
> 
> Any ideas?
> 

when I do:

L3 ~ # ls /dev/snd/
controlC0  pcmC0D0c  pcmC0D0p  seq  timer


does yours look like that too? It looks like xine is using a different interface to the sound than it should. For example, I emerged gxine so I could show you:


L3 ~ # lsof | grep xine | grep snd
gxine      6950       root  mem       CHR     116,16                 2975 /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p
gxine      6950       root    9u      CHR      116,0                 2966 /dev/snd/controlC0
gxine      6950       root   15r      CHR     116,33                 3091 /dev/snd/timer
... truncated ...

I'm not exactly sure, but I'd look into that.
February 25, 2007
kenny wrote:
> Michiel wrote:
>> kenny wrote:
>>
>>> can you paste me "lsof | grep snd"
>>>
>>> if you don't have lsof, emerge lsof
>>>
>>> The reason why I say this is because if you have a device using the old oss interface, I've seen my sound not work before. running that command, I can find out what devices are using my sound, to close them
>> The output is empty.
>>
>> Though let me clarify: I do get sound out of other applications (like Xine). But only one application at a time.
>>
>> Any ideas?
>>
> 
> when I do:
> 
> L3 ~ # ls /dev/snd/
> controlC0  pcmC0D0c  pcmC0D0p  seq  timer
> 
> 
> does yours look like that too? It looks like xine is using a different interface to the sound than it should. For example, I emerged gxine so I could show you:
> 
> 
> L3 ~ # lsof | grep xine | grep snd
> gxine      6950       root  mem       CHR     116,16                 2975 /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p
> gxine      6950       root    9u      CHR      116,0                 2966 /dev/snd/controlC0
> gxine      6950       root   15r      CHR     116,33                 3091 /dev/snd/timer
> ... truncated ...
> 
> I'm not exactly sure, but I'd look into that.

let me clarify, I mean I think *your* xine is using a different interface than it should. Which one is it using for you? Also, if you lsof | grep /dev/dsp does anything come up?
February 25, 2007
kenny wrote:

>> when I do:
>>
>> L3 ~ # ls /dev/snd/
>> controlC0  pcmC0D0c  pcmC0D0p  seq  timer

controlC0  midiC0D0  midiC0D1  midiC0D2  midiC0D3  seq  timer

>> does yours look like that too? It looks like xine is using a different interface to the sound than it should. For example, I emerged gxine so I could show you:
>>
>>
>> L3 ~ # lsof | grep xine | grep snd
>> gxine      6950       root  mem       CHR     116,16                 2975 /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p
>> gxine      6950       root    9u      CHR      116,0                 2966 /dev/snd/controlC0
>> gxine      6950       root   15r      CHR     116,33                 3091 /dev/snd/timer
>> ... truncated ...
>>
>> I'm not exactly sure, but I'd look into that.
> 
> let me clarify, I mean I think *your* xine is using a different interface than it should. Which one is it using for you? Also, if you lsof | grep /dev/dsp does anything come up?

I get nothing from the lsof commands.

-- 
Michiel
February 25, 2007
Michiel wrote:
> kenny wrote:
> 
>>> when I do:
>>>
>>> L3 ~ # ls /dev/snd/
>>> controlC0  pcmC0D0c  pcmC0D0p  seq  timer
> 
> controlC0  midiC0D0  midiC0D1  midiC0D2  midiC0D3  seq  timer
> 
>>> does yours look like that too? It looks like xine is using a different interface to the sound than it should. For example, I emerged gxine so I could show you:
>>>
>>>
>>> L3 ~ # lsof | grep xine | grep snd
>>> gxine      6950       root  mem       CHR     116,16                 2975 /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p
>>> gxine      6950       root    9u      CHR      116,0                 2966 /dev/snd/controlC0
>>> gxine      6950       root   15r      CHR     116,33                 3091 /dev/snd/timer
>>> ... truncated ...
>>>
>>> I'm not exactly sure, but I'd look into that.
>> let me clarify, I mean I think *your* xine is using a different interface than it should. Which one is it using for you? Also, if you lsof | grep /dev/dsp does anything come up?
> 
> I get nothing from the lsof commands.
> 

well, hmmm

it appears your problem is not having the pcm* devices. Those are pretty important, because they're what receive the data to be put on the speakers. Perhaps something's not right in udev or your kernel?
February 25, 2007
kenny wrote:

> it appears your problem is not having the pcm* devices. Those are pretty important, because they're what receive the data to be put on the speakers. Perhaps something's not right in udev or your kernel?

Well, I assure you I have done nothing exotic as root.

Anyway, it's just a slight annoyance. I might look deeper into it some day.

-- 
Michiel
February 25, 2007
Michiel wrote:
> kenny wrote:
> 
>> it appears your problem is not having the pcm* devices. Those are pretty important, because they're what receive the data to be put on the speakers. Perhaps something's not right in udev or your kernel?
> 
> Well, I assure you I have done nothing exotic as root.
> 
> Anyway, it's just a slight annoyance. I might look deeper into it some day.
> 

in your kernel, do you have:

CONFIG_SND_PCM_OSS: OSS PCM (digital audio) API

that's the last thing I can think of, other than possibly udev isn't getting those devices. you definitely need the pcm devices, I know that :)
February 25, 2007
kenny wrote:

>>> it appears your problem is not having the pcm* devices. Those are pretty important, because they're what receive the data to be put on the speakers. Perhaps something's not right in udev or your kernel?
>> Well, I assure you I have done nothing exotic as root.
>>
>> Anyway, it's just a slight annoyance. I might look deeper into it some day.
>>
> 
> in your kernel, do you have:
> 
> CONFIG_SND_PCM_OSS: OSS PCM (digital audio) API
> 
> that's the last thing I can think of, other than possibly udev isn't getting those devices. you definitely need the pcm devices, I know that :)

Yes, I do have that built in the kernel.

-- 
Michiel
February 26, 2007
Andrei Alexandrescu (See Website For Email) wrote:
> Michiel wrote (in a different thread):
>  > kenny wrote:
>  >
>  >> I don't know about ubuntu, but in gentoo, flash sound wouldn't
>  >> work while I was using flash 7. I upgraded to netscape-flash-9 and
>  >> everything is hunky dory now. The problem is, your sound device is
>  >> being used by something else (lsof | grep /dev/snd). It's because the
>  >> old flash used oss, I think, and the new one uses alsa.
>  >
>  > I wish I could say the same. I run Gentoo and can't get any sound out of
>  > Firefox. I already upgraded to netscape-flash-9. I enabled ALSA support
>  > and OSS support in the kernel, installed alsa-oss... I'm out of ideas.
> 
> I'm (roughly) in the same boat. This seems to be a topic in which quite some people took interest, so by this I'm starting a new thread.
> 
> If anyone has ideas or pointers, please post here - thanks!
> 
> 
> Andrei

I have Ubuntu 6.10, 64-bit, and got Flash 9 to work in Firefox with sound and everything. I just followed this guide:

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=341727

I did have a audio recording problem in Skype, which I solved by removing /etc/asound.conf.

L.
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