Are there any tools to do this at all in Digitalmars D? All current libraries seem to be outdated, but GTKD. GTK on it's end is a pain to bundle which is enough to not consider it cross platform at all.

On Sunday, 23 March 2014 at 12:34:10 UTC, Jeroen Bollen wrote:
> Are there any tools to do this at all in Digitalmars D? All current libraries seem to be outdated, but GTKD. GTK on it's end is a pain to bundle which is enough to not consider it cross platform at all.

See: http://forum.dlang.org/thread/twlshfdigsfkphyvrixz@forum.dlang.org#post-zetmofrvhgdocnsmnxip:40forum.dlang.org

On Sunday, 23 March 2014 at 16:43:31 UTC, Gary Willoughby wrote:
> On Sunday, 23 March 2014 at 12:34:10 UTC, Jeroen Bollen wrote:
>> Are there any tools to do this at all in Digitalmars D? All current libraries seem to be outdated, but GTKD. GTK on it's end is a pain to bundle which is enough to not consider it cross platform at all.
>
> See: http://forum.dlang.org/thread/twlshfdigsfkphyvrixz@forum.dlang.org#post-zetmofrvhgdocnsmnxip:40forum.dlang.org

I noticed Derelict also has bindings, is there a difference? Also, what requirements are still required for every OS?

On Sunday, 23 March 2014 at 17:27:03 UTC, Jeroen Bollen wrote:
> On Sunday, 23 March 2014 at 16:43:31 UTC, Gary Willoughby wrote:
>> On Sunday, 23 March 2014 at 12:34:10 UTC, Jeroen Bollen wrote:
>>> Are there any tools to do this at all in Digitalmars D? All current libraries seem to be outdated, but GTKD. GTK on it's end is a pain to bundle which is enough to not consider it cross platform at all.
>>
>> See: http://forum.dlang.org/thread/twlshfdigsfkphyvrixz@forum.dlang.org#post-zetmofrvhgdocnsmnxip:40forum.dlang.org
>
> I noticed Derelict also has bindings, is there a difference? Also, what requirements are still required for every OS?

The only dependencies for my Tkd GUI framework is the Tcl/Tk libraries on all platforms. What i want to do though is compile Tcl/Tk myself and provide DLL's so that dependency is removed for Windows. Posix OSes usually come with Tcl/Tk already installed.

On Sunday, 23 March 2014 at 19:03:54 UTC, Gary Willoughby wrote:
> On Sunday, 23 March 2014 at 17:27:03 UTC, Jeroen Bollen wrote:
>> On Sunday, 23 March 2014 at 16:43:31 UTC, Gary Willoughby wrote:
>>> On Sunday, 23 March 2014 at 12:34:10 UTC, Jeroen Bollen wrote:
>>>> Are there any tools to do this at all in Digitalmars D? All current libraries seem to be outdated, but GTKD. GTK on it's end is a pain to bundle which is enough to not consider it cross platform at all.
>>>
>>> See: http://forum.dlang.org/thread/twlshfdigsfkphyvrixz@forum.dlang.org#post-zetmofrvhgdocnsmnxip:40forum.dlang.org
>>
>> I noticed Derelict also has bindings, is there a difference? Also, what requirements are still required for every OS?
>
> The only dependencies for my Tkd GUI framework is the Tcl/Tk libraries on all platforms. What i want to do though is compile Tcl/Tk myself and provide DLL's so that dependency is removed for Windows. Posix OSes usually come with Tcl/Tk already installed.

I think I'll be using that then, cheers. :D

23.03.2014 16:34, Jeroen Bollen пишет:
> Are there any tools to do this at all in Digitalmars D? All current
> libraries seem to be outdated, but GTKD. GTK on it's end is a pain to
> bundle which is enough to not consider it cross platform at all.

First, I don't understand what is the problem with GTK?

Also there is DWT, but I already have spent some time on it and I'd like to suggest to not use it as its sources is a mess.

As for cross-platform GUI app, I'd suggest to use own native GUI library for every platform as it looks like an easiest and the most convenient for the user of your program approach.

The problem is it's too common to connect application login and GUI, so for my personal purposes I created MetaUI [1] which allow such intermediate layer and you only create native GUI elements, place it somewhere and connect with logic elements from MetaUI, see examples. As a native GUI I use GTK (mainly my own fast, correct and very usable bindings [2]) over MetaUI for now, but when I will have more time I will use DGui on Windows just to decrease program installation size. The only problem is a Mac OS X for which I don't know working GUI library (I don't target it for now, GTK may work but with PITA), but with MetaUI it shouldn't be a problem to use some C one as the only thing you need is a way to connect C widgets to D logic controls.

[1] https://bitbucket.org/denis-sh/metaui
[2] https://bitbucket.org/denis-sh/gtkd
[3] https://bitbucket.org/dgui/dgui

-- 
Денис В. Шеломовский
Denis V. Shelomovskij

On Sunday, 23 March 2014 at 19:56:47 UTC, Denis Shelomovskij wrote:
> 23.03.2014 16:34, Jeroen Bollen пишет:
>> Are there any tools to do this at all in Digitalmars D? All current
>> libraries seem to be outdated, but GTKD. GTK on it's end is a pain to
>> bundle which is enough to not consider it cross platform at all.
>
> First, I don't understand what is the problem with GTK?
>
> Also there is DWT, but I already have spent some time on it and I'd like to suggest to not use it as its sources is a mess.
>
> As for cross-platform GUI app, I'd suggest to use own native GUI library for every platform as it looks like an easiest and the most convenient for the user of your program approach.
>
> The problem is it's too common to connect application login and GUI, so for my personal purposes I created MetaUI [1] which allow such intermediate layer and you only create native GUI elements, place it somewhere and connect with logic elements from MetaUI, see examples. As a native GUI I use GTK (mainly my own fast, correct and very usable bindings [2]) over MetaUI for now, but when I will have more time I will use DGui on Windows just to decrease program installation size. The only problem is a Mac OS X for which I don't know working GUI library (I don't target it for now, GTK may work but with PITA), but with MetaUI it shouldn't be a problem to use some C one as the only thing you need is a way to connect C widgets to D logic controls.
>
> [1] https://bitbucket.org/denis-sh/metaui
> [2] https://bitbucket.org/denis-sh/gtkd
> [3] https://bitbucket.org/dgui/dgui

The main problem I have with GTK is that it's a mess to setup on Windows for the end user.

24.03.2014 0:03, Jeroen Bollen пишет:
> On Sunday, 23 March 2014 at 19:56:47 UTC, Denis Shelomovskij wrote:
>> 23.03.2014 16:34, Jeroen Bollen пишет:
>>> Are there any tools to do this at all in Digitalmars D? All current
>>> libraries seem to be outdated, but GTKD. GTK on it's end is a pain to
>>> bundle which is enough to not consider it cross platform at all.
>>
>> First, I don't understand what is the problem with GTK?
>>
>> ...
>
> The main problem I have with GTK is that it's a mess to setup on Windows
> for the end user.

And you shouldn't ever do it. Just bundle GTK with your program and be happy. Here is what I use (~4 MiB):
http://deoma-cmd.ru/files/other/GTK-3-redist.7z
(if you are OK with third GTK version)

These files just should be in your target installation directory.

-- 
Денис В. Шеломовский
Denis V. Shelomovskij

On Sunday, 23 March 2014 at 20:04:00 UTC, Jeroen Bollen wrote:
> The main problem I have with GTK is that it's a mess to setup on Windows for the end user.

The only real problem is the actual installation of GTK onto the Windows user's machine as some people ask "why do i need to install this weird GTK thing for this app to work?". But... you can 'hide' the installation of GTK on Windows as part of the main application's installer because the Windows version of GTK has a silent install options.

http://gtk-win.sourceforge.net/home/index.php/Main/EmbeddingGTK

On Sunday, 23 March 2014 at 20:23:01 UTC, Denis Shelomovskij wrote:
> Just bundle GTK with your program and be happy. Here is what I use (~4 MiB):
> http://deoma-cmd.ru/files/other/GTK-3-redist.7z
> (if you are OK with third GTK version)
>
> These files just should be in your target installation directory.

or do this ^ :)