Thread overview
Apology
Apr 02, 2007
John Reimer
Apr 03, 2007
Walter Bright
Apr 03, 2007
David B. Held
Apr 03, 2007
Davidl
Apr 03, 2007
Tom
Apr 03, 2007
Georg Wrede
Apr 03, 2007
Dan
Apr 03, 2007
Don Clugston
April 02, 2007
It's time for me to make amends.

I want to make a formal apology for the flame war that I fueled with my recent posts.  I am indeed ashamed of them and don't want to be categorized as a warmonger or instigator in this or any community. And I certainly don't want to presume and fuel the worst everytime I think I see something going awry.

Whatever I felt the evidence may have been, it was based on feelings and guesswork prodded by annoyances and pride (that aspect can't be avoided, I admit now). I never should have posted any comments that called into question Andrei's agenda, character, or intentions -- things far beyond my field of vision. I hope that Andrei will forgive my actions on the matter and that our future interactions will be amicable.

For the rest of you, I hope you forgive my negligence in the matter as well. My posts could quite possibly have spread miscontent and fueled distrust at Andrei's expense. I don't want to be responsible for that. I'm in no position to make such judgements, and I'm disturbed that I may have caused them while my mind was so dangerously focused.  Everyone has a right to read and determine things for themselves without being prodded with malcontent.

As I think about this issue, I'm reminded of my past interferances also. Some might remember how I've voiced myself too hastily and perhaps damaged or hurt others in the process. I presumed too much about the importance or even the "rightness" of my words -- this once again shows my pride. That's a nature in myself that I want to avoid, yet it's been sticking out like a sore thumb quite often of late.  I apologize to those people who have been offended by this aspect of my posts before.

Walter, you too.  I've not been satisfied with how I've treated you in the past.  I may have been vexed or confused many times over on different things. But I've been far too presumptuous in how I've spoken or treated you. I'm sorry for that and will endeavor to keep level-headed and non-confrontational in the future.  If I feel I cannot, I will learn to hold my tongue.

I hope that this community continues in peace.

The best to all of you.

-JJR
April 03, 2007
I sincerely thank you for posting this, John. It takes a lot of guts to do that. I humbly accept your apology, and consider the matter closed and forgotten.
April 03, 2007
That's very big of you, and takes a considerable strength of character that is all too rare these days.

Dave
April 03, 2007
err, in my opinion , we owe Alex an apology. Because if Andrei's post is posted
by others, there wouldn't be such war or any attack on specific people. And I
think as gentlemen, people who involved in with carefully consideration would do
the same thing as John. And I show you my respect. It's great to do so! What I
want to see is Alex showing up, and restarting the technical discussion again.
But this time NO WAR any more!
April 03, 2007
Well done man!

Tom;

John Reimer escribió:
> It's time for me to make amends.
[snip]
> -JJR
April 03, 2007
Good to see you back, John!

Must have been somebody else at your keyboard lately. ;-)

> It's time for me to make amends.

It takes a lot of guts to write that, and it puts you right back among the greatest human beings in this newsgroup!

Georg

April 03, 2007
I missed the harsh words and saw the apology.

I'd say as long as Andrei has no hard feelings, you've righted any wrong.

On that note, I'd like to say that I've been awfully verbose pulling the language the way I want it to be.  I have a tendancy for my words to be abrasive and my expression and tone to make it almost funny, which doesn't translate well online.

I was generally disagreeing with Andrei alot myself - though not in an emotionally charged sort of way.  We're both just nitpicking, pulling in different directions, the details of what's I'm sure is slated to be the single most used language in the world.

I think the trick is to remember that we're only nitpicking, and cheerily nitpick away.  : )

April 03, 2007
Dan wrote:
> I missed the harsh words and saw the apology.
> 
> I'd say as long as Andrei has no hard feelings, you've righted any wrong.
> 
> On that note, I'd like to say that I've been awfully verbose pulling the language the way I want it to be.  I have a tendancy for my words to be abrasive and my expression and tone to make it almost funny, which doesn't translate well online.
> 
> I was generally disagreeing with Andrei alot myself - though not in an emotionally charged sort of way.  We're both just nitpicking, pulling in different directions, the details of what's I'm sure is slated to be the single most used language in the world.
> 
> I think the trick is to remember that we're only nitpicking, and cheerily nitpick away.  : )

D only seems to support the unsigned form of nittest. <g>

Seriously, John -- that was exemplary. You're part of the reason I'm here.