On Thu, 01 Feb 2018 11:11:20 +0000, Martin Tschierschke wrote:


> Idea: There should be some kind of news ticker for all enhancements and important decisions, maybe at first just via twitter  with a special #tag  beside #dlang where all updates are announced. And a place on the homepage, where this feed is displayed separately.

The announce forum gets most things; if you're not reading it you'll want to (between that and the changelog for the compiler and library, that's most activity). A twitter bot to pull all announce posts from core committers might not be a bad idea.

On Thursday, 1 February 2018 at 11:20:00 UTC, Russel Winder wrote:
> On Wed, 2018-01-31 at 13:14 +0000, Michael via Digitalmars-d wrote:
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>> I agree that marketing is a pretty serious problem for D. Many people just aren't aware of it. Even for people who do not […]
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> Some suggestions:
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> More people putting more good projects using D on GitLab, BitBucket, Launchpad, and GitHub.
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> People writing more articles using D in publications such as CVu and Overload, etc.
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> People putting more sessions into conferences such as ACCU using D – there hasn't been a single D-related session since Andrei's keynote at ACCU 2016.

Ali gave a keynote at C++Now(?) last year(?).

On Thu, 2018-02-01 at 11:49 +0000, Nicholas Wilson via Digitalmars-d wrote:
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> Ali gave a keynote at C++Now(?) last year(?).

I think it was. What is needed though is follow ups. ACCU, C++Now, etc. all need a steady trickle of sessions.

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On Thursday, 1 February 2018 at 11:11:20 UTC, Martin Tschierschke wrote:
> Idea: There should be some kind of news ticker for all enhancements and important decisions, maybe at first just via twitter  with a special #tag  beside #dlang where all updates are announced. And a place on the homepage, where this feed is displayed separately.

I had hoped the blog would be used for that purpose. Obviously it is not. From what I've seen, the D Language Twitter account mostly tweets to announce new blog posts. The subreddit is another place these announcements could go, but that seems to get little attention as well. The view seems to be that there should only be announcements of the really big stuff. My opinion is that it's better to err on the side of too many announcements rather than too few.

On Thursday, 1 February 2018 at 12:03:43 UTC, Russel Winder wrote:
> On Thu, 2018-02-01 at 11:49 +0000, Nicholas Wilson via Digitalmars-d wrote:
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>> Ali gave a keynote at C++Now(?) last year(?).
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> I think it was. What is needed though is follow ups. ACCU, C++Now, etc. all need a steady trickle of sessions.

Indeed, I will be giving a talk at IWOCL (an OpenCL conference) a week after DConf, promoting DCompute to the numerics folk.

On Thu, 2018-02-01 at 12:06 +0000, Nicholas Wilson via Digitalmars-d wrote:
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> Indeed, I will be giving a talk at IWOCL (an OpenCL conference) a week after DConf, promoting DCompute to the numerics folk.

Please send this in to ACCU 2019 during the CfP 2018-10-?? to 2018-11- ?? as a 90 minute full session. If the committee do not like the proposal, I will override their faulty decision.

(We have a (small but vocal) group of games people at ACCU who think
C++ is the one true way of doing fast computations.)

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On Thursday, 1 February 2018 at 12:22:56 UTC, Russel Winder wrote:
> On Thu, 2018-02-01 at 12:06 +0000, Nicholas Wilson via Digitalmars-d wrote:
>> 
> […]
>> Indeed, I will be giving a talk at IWOCL (an OpenCL conference) a week after DConf, promoting DCompute to the numerics folk.
>
> Please send this in to ACCU 2019 during the CfP 2018-10-?? to 2018-11- ?? as a 90 minute full session. If the committee do not like the proposal, I will override their faulty decision.
>
> (We have a (small but vocal) group of games people at ACCU who think
> C++ is the one true way of doing fast computations.)

OK, will do. Might need to work on getting some more content to fill out the time but should be doable. Hopefully by then DCompute will support Vulkan, assuming that I can get consensus to get Vulkan as part of the SPIR-V backend for LLVM.

On Thursday, 1 February 2018 at 12:04:11 UTC, bachmeier wrote:

> I had hoped the blog would be used for that purpose. Obviously it is not.

And it won't be. I had vaguely imagined using it for semi-regular news updates from the core D team, but I realized early on that isn't going to pan out.

> From what I've seen, the D Language Twitter account mostly tweets to announce new blog posts.

Stepping up twitter usage is one of  my priorities for this year. The blog tweets are automated every time I publish a new blog post. I'm slowly increasing my twitter time investment, responding and retweeting #dlang tweets when it fits.

I plan to start tweeting out smaller news items there that aren't big enough for blog posts. I'll keep an eye on the forums for news, and cast a net outside the core community now and again.

I encourage anyone who sees something they think @D_Programming should tweet out to email me and let me know. Or tweet about it with #dlang. I'm scanning Twitter every couple of days right now.

I also have an announcement coming on the blog very soon regarding using Twitter to fix bugs.

On Thursday, 1 February 2018 at 11:40:32 UTC, rjframe wrote:
> On Thu, 01 Feb 2018 11:11:20 +0000, Martin Tschierschke wrote:
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>> Idea: There should be some kind of news ticker for all enhancements and important decisions, maybe at first just via twitter  with a special #tag  beside #dlang where all updates are announced. And a place on the homepage, where this feed is displayed separately.
>
> The announce forum gets most things; if you're not reading it you'll want to (between that and the changelog for the compiler and library, that's most activity). A twitter bot to pull all announce posts from core committers might not be a bad idea.

Shouldn't be too hard: https://github.com/CyberShadow/DFeed/issues/97

On Thu, 2018-02-01 at 12:55 +0000, Nicholas Wilson via Digitalmars-d wrote:
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> OK, will do. Might need to work on getting some more content to fill out the time but should be doable. Hopefully by then DCompute will support Vulkan, assuming that I can get consensus to get Vulkan as part of the SPIR-V backend for LLVM.

Excellent. ACCU 90 minute sessions are intended as 60 mins presentation + 30 mins Q&A. However many presenters go for the more interactive approach of dealing with points as they arise. The more interactive sessions go down very well.

The alternative is a 90 minute workshop where people come and do stuff. Many presenters structure them as 20 mins intro and 60 mins of writing software or doing some activity in groups and 10 mins of sharing experiences. These go down well. For a really deep dive, there is the "long workshop" which is 180 mins. However the last few of these we had didn't work too well, the workshop lost too many people at the 90 min break.

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