Lester Martin wrote:
> I wonder will DSSS allow me to distribute their system or give me permission to do this.

AFAIK DSSS uses a MIT licence. It is very liberal. Just be sure to include the original DSSS license notices in all distributions.
(I sure hope I got that right... :)

Regards, Frank

Never mind about the include DSSS in my zip for redistribution as I have found a way to download it and unzip it exactly how I want.

> I will try and include that.  I almost have a basic full install version working but .NET won't let me overwrite directories exactly the way I want.
> I wonder will DSSS allow me to distribute their system or give me permission to do this.
> BCS Wrote:
> 
> > Reply to Bill,
> > 
> > > Lester Martin wrote:
> > > 
> > >> Hello Everyone,
> > >> 
> > >> I am going to work on a d installer that installs D(dmd), A chosen
> > >> standard library(tango,phobos),and a build enviromet(dss).
> > >> 
> > > Just be aware that you're not allowed to redistribute D or phobos.  So your installer will have to download them on the fly from digitalmars.com at install time.
> > > 
> > 
> > be sure to include a "I don't have net connection on this system but I downloaded the files and they are here" option as well as a "you don't have a net connection, download these and put them here" message.
> > 
> > 
> 

BCS Wrote:
Post the specifics and grant me a liscense allowing to host those batch files or write them out at runtime and I think I could get it done. It would use 2 different dmd installations because I can't get mine to allow the same dmd installlation to do phobos and tango.
> Reply to Lester,
> 
> > Hello Everyone,
> > 
> > I am going to work on a d installer that installs D(dmd), A chosen
> > standard library(tango,phobos),and a build enviromet(dss).  This will
> > only work for windows because I don't have a linux machine.
> > 
> 
> make that tango and/or phobos if you can. I have my machine set up to switch back and for with batch files. I can post specifics if you want.
> 
> > It will only work for Win98 and up and probably only for XP if the features I am going to use are not supported in Win9x or WinNT with version below current XP version.
> > 
> > If anyone has suggestions please feel free to email me at the address above or just simply reply to this post.
> > 
> 
> 

Reply to Lester,

> BCS Wrote:
> Post the specifics and grant me a liscense allowing to host those
> batch files or write them out at runtime and I think I could get it
> done. It would use 2 different dmd installations because I can't get
> mine to allow the same dmd installlation to do phobos and tango.
>
>> make that tango and/or phobos if you can. I have my machine set up to
>> switch back and for with batch files. I can post specifics if you
>> want.
>> 

Mine works with only one copy of dmd. As you can see the trick is to get the configuration set in environment variables rather than in the config file. It has the down side is that you need to run phobos.bat or tango.bat before you can compile anything. Alternately, one set of environment variables could be added to the default set for the system and then just have people run the other .bat as needed. I's a bit inelegant if you are going back and forth a lot, but it seems to work for the most part.

tanog.bat

set DFLAGS=-Ic:\include\tango\trunk\ C:\include\tango\trunk\lib\usergdi32.lib C:\include\tango\trunk\lib\phobos.lib
set lib=c:\include\tango\trunk\lib


phobos.bat

set DFLAGS=-Ic:\dmd\src\phobos\
set LIB="C:\dmd\lib\"

and the magic part: sc.ini (note commented out lines)

[Environment]
;LIB="C:\include\tango\trunk\lib\"
;DFLAGS="-Ic:\include\tango\trunk\"
LINKCMD=%@P%\..\..\dm\bin\link.exe

You can use these for whatever you want.

BTW I have only tested the tango side enough to known I can build a hello world. But if there are any problems the fix should be simple.

My tango doesn't come from trunk so I'll have a look at the files my compiler has for tango. Besides that everything will(hopefully) be taken care of.  I have a basic program now where you can install the dmd, tango, and dsss.  I am working on custom, full, and no net installation options.  Where can I host my project. I'd host it on my computer except that it everyonce in a while has an IP change so it won't be available at times.
BCS Wrote:

> Reply to Lester,
> 
> > BCS Wrote:
> > Post the specifics and grant me a liscense allowing to host those
> > batch files or write them out at runtime and I think I could get it
> > done. It would use 2 different dmd installations because I can't get
> > mine to allow the same dmd installlation to do phobos and tango.
> >
> >> make that tango and/or phobos if you can. I have my machine set up to switch back and for with batch files. I can post specifics if you want.
> >> 
> 
> Mine works with only one copy of dmd. As you can see the trick is to get the configuration set in environment variables rather than in the config file. It has the down side is that you need to run phobos.bat or tango.bat before you can compile anything. Alternately, one set of environment variables could be added to the default set for the system and then just have people run the other .bat as needed. I's a bit inelegant if you are going back and forth a lot, but it seems to work for the most part.
> 
> tanog.bat
> 
> set DFLAGS=-Ic:\include\tango\trunk\ C:\include\tango\trunk\lib\usergdi32.lib
> C:\include\tango\trunk\lib\phobos.lib
> set lib=c:\include\tango\trunk\lib
> 
> 
> phobos.bat
> 
> set DFLAGS=-Ic:\dmd\src\phobos\
> set LIB="C:\dmd\lib\"
> 
> and the magic part: sc.ini (note commented out lines)
> 
> [Environment]
> ;LIB="C:\include\tango\trunk\lib\"
> ;DFLAGS="-Ic:\include\tango\trunk\"
> LINKCMD=%@P%\..\..\dm\bin\link.exe
> 
> You can use these for whatever you want.
> 
> BTW I have only tested the tango side enough to known I can build a hello world. But if there are any problems the fix should be simple.
> 
> 

An installer for D that's not written in D itself.  Oh, the humanity and ensuing embarrassment.  Please, no.

Additionally, doesn't Tango already come with an installer for both windows and linux?

Lester Martin wrote:
> The thing is I'm writing the installer in C# since I can use it so easily.
> Jarrett Billingsley Wrote:
> 
>> "Bill Baxter" <dnewsgroup@billbaxter.com> wrote in message news:fdlff7$2v9t$1@digitalmars.com...
>>
>>> Um, suggestion number 1 is don't require users to download a 22.4 MB framework just to install a 5MB compiler package.
>> While I agree that having the installer depend upon .NET 2.0 is a bit.. odd, keep in mind that any reasonably up-to-date windows machine will already have it installed.  I mean, it's not like it's new technology, it came out almost two years ago. 
>>
>>

Dear Mr. Roberts,
Reason I'm not writing it in D is I don't have the tools I need.  I would have to rewrite zipping and such because I want to be able to use it easily in an OO way.  Plus I can't get DFL to work with tango so I can't use my favorite standard library and favorite gui lib together easily yet.
If you want when I'm through I'll send you my C# program and you can convert it to D.
My installer is an executable not a( you must )unzip.
Fellow Programmer,
Lester Martin

On Sat, 29 Sep 2007 20:52:58 +0300, Lester Martin <Sarah@ewam-associates.com> wrote:

> Plus I can't get DFL to work with tango so I can't use my favorite standard library and favorite gui lib together easily yet.

Works great here. Maybe you're not trying hard enough? Have you tried to solve the problem by asking around or contacting the library's developer(s)?

-- 
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On Sat, 29 Sep 2007 13:52:58 -0400, Lester Martin <Sarah@ewam-associates.com> wrote:

> Dear Mr. Roberts,
> Reason I'm not writing it in D is I don't have the tools I need.  I would have to rewrite zipping and such because I want to be able to use it easily in an OO way.  Plus I can't get DFL to work with tango so I can't use my favorite standard library and favorite gui lib together easily yet.
> If you want when I'm through I'll send you my C# program and you can convert it to D.
> My installer is an executable not a( you must )unzip.
> Fellow Programmer,
> Lester Martin

For DFL, try http://www.dprogramming.com/dfltango.php with the DFL snapshot at http://wiki.dprogramming.com/Dfl/Snapshots - if you have problems, please report them. You can use the forum, reply to my e-mail, whatever. All DFL versions are bound to specific DMD and Tango versions, which tends to be more strict with Tango; the snapshot has updated Tango support.

Works with V 1.021 so I'll try and if it works I'll use tango and DFL for the installer rewrite.  I am going to finish what I started in C#.
Lester Martin
Chris Miller Wrote:

> On Sat, 29 Sep 2007 13:52:58 -0400, Lester Martin <Sarah@ewam-associates.com> wrote:
> 
> > Dear Mr. Roberts,
> > Reason I'm not writing it in D is I don't have the tools I need.  I
> > would have to rewrite zipping and such because I want to be able to use
> > it easily in an OO way.  Plus I can't get DFL to work with tango so I
> > can't use my favorite standard library and favorite gui lib together
> > easily yet.
> > If you want when I'm through I'll send you my C# program and you can
> > convert it to D.
> > My installer is an executable not a( you must )unzip.
> > Fellow Programmer,
> > Lester Martin
> 
> For DFL, try http://www.dprogramming.com/dfltango.php with the DFL snapshot at http://wiki.dprogramming.com/Dfl/Snapshots - if you have problems, please report them. You can use the forum, reply to my e-mail, whatever. All DFL versions are bound to specific DMD and Tango versions, which tends to be more strict with Tango; the snapshot has updated Tango support.