On 05/26/2018 11:18 AM, bachmeier wrote:
> 
> You know it's outdated when you click a link and it loads immediately. Where's the Javascript? Where are the features that I never use? Where's the electron app?

+1k

On 5/26/2018 4:12 AM, Rubn wrote:
> What about self moderation? If I make an unprofessional comment and want to delete it? Will this be allowed now? I guess it's more of a feature request.

People have from time to time asked me to delete one of their comments, which I have done if I could.

Note that forum messages that get transmitted via the mailing list cannot be unsent, nor can messages that people have already retrieved from the NNTP server be deleted from their machines, and I'm extremely reluctant to delete messages that quote yours.

Think of it like getting up in front of a group of people and saying things. You can't unsay it.

It's best to think before posting, and perhaps save your postings in a draft folder before transmission, in case you change your mind. In particular, be very cautious about posting when you're angry. NNTP isn't amenable to take-backsies.

Just like you can't take back an email after you hit 'send'.

On Saturday, 26 May 2018 at 03:34:50 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
> From time to time, the issue comes up.
>
> The standard here is professional demeanor. For what professional demeanor is, see:
>
> https://www.amazon.com/Etiquette-Society-Business-Politics-Home/dp/1497339979
>
> Unprofessional demeanor will get removed at the forum staff's sole discretion on a case by case basis, as well as replies to it.
>
> For unprofessional demeanor, I recommend reddit.

surely the best form of professional etiquette is to NOT be offended by what others say.

as soon as you ignore that etiquette, it's a slippery slope to utlimately controlling others.

On 05/27/2018 12:57 AM, SlimeBag wrote:
> 
> surely the best form of professional etiquette is to NOT be offended by what others say.
> 
> as soon as you ignore that etiquette, it's a slippery slope to utlimately controlling others.

Hear, hear.

On Sunday, 27 May 2018 at 04:01:27 UTC, 12345swordy wrote:
> On Saturday, 26 May 2018 at 07:35:31 UTC, Dukc wrote:
>> On Saturday, 26 May 2018 at 03:34:50 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
>>> For unprofessional demeanor, I recommend reddit.
>>
>> Wat?!?
>
> Enough of the sex talk here.

Stop

On Saturday, 26 May 2018 at 03:34:50 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
> From time to time, the issue comes up.
>
> The standard here is professional demeanor. For what professional demeanor is, see:
>
> https://www.amazon.com/Etiquette-Society-Business-Politics-Home/dp/1497339979
>
> Unprofessional demeanor will get removed at the forum staff's sole discretion on a case by case basis, as well as replies to it.
>
> For unprofessional demeanor, I recommend reddit.

Why can't we just follow 'the presidential guide to etiquette', instead of that old, outdated stuff from the 1900's?


https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/05/25/opinion/editorials/Donald-Trumps-Guide-To-Presidential-Etiquette.html

On Sunday, 27 May 2018 at 05:30:22 UTC, TheUncivilServant wrote:
> On Sunday, 27 May 2018 at 04:57:20 UTC, SlimeBag wrote:
>>
>> surely the best form of professional etiquette is to NOT be offended by what others say.
>>
>> as soon as you ignore that etiquette, it's a slippery slope to utlimately controlling others.
>
> I agree.
>
> One can also argue, that for those who are intent on practisiing 'etiquette', those who are not practicing 'etiquette', become (initially) an irritant (to those intent on practicing 'etiquette').
>
> Eventually, this cultivates into a 'hatred' (of those not practicing 'etiquette').
>
> So, 'etiquette' actually leads to an uncivilised society.
>
> The 'victorian era' of Emily Post, was stife with 'etiquette', and is why Freud had so many patients.

This is precisely why their are so many problems in the world. So many people believe that the way to achieve some imaginary ideal is to forcibly go that way and just through "banging ones head" enough it will magically materialize.

What happens, at least in the long run, in fact is that they do the exact opposite of what they were trying to achieve. You can point to any number of the major social issues and see that they have progressively worsened precisely because of the people supposedly trying to make things better have done this.

So society progressively gets worse in many areas and more and more people come out to "fix" things only to dig the hole deeper. Sometimes people just need to be told off, sometimes people need to be shot, some times people need bad thing to happen so that worse things don't. Humans can't control everything and trying only makes things worse. It's built in to the system. The Heisenberg uncertainty principle is built in to everything. It is applicable not just to atoms but things composed of atoms like love(which is a very complex system of atoms), gun rights, education, etc. It's bad enough that humans are pretty clueless about the true complexities of the universe but their ignorance in the very basic concept of balance is what really makes the world the way it is. Westerners tend to be extremely ignorant of balance for some reason.