On Thursday, 18 August 2022 at 06:46:49 UTC, Siemargl wrote:
> For many years I've heard here that IDEs are not a priority issue and that vim is enough for everyone. And so we are here.
Plenty of people note that they use vim, but I don't believe anyone here has been claiming it's enough for everyone.
> Is anyone of the new generation using Vim for Windows? I don't think so.
I would expect few people primarily developing on Windows use vim. Even older generations.
> Specifically I would say about the terrible support for visual debugging on Windows, it really only exists in Visual D (many thanks for it) which was released relatively recently.
There is a similar, though less acute, problem with profiler.
I want to reiterate what I posted above: the D ecosystem has developed organically over the years as contributors have put out their projects. There have been no resources to oversee and guide it nor to implement it. Visual D, code-d & serve-d, and all of the IDE and editor plugins and syntax files have been part of that.
This was a functioning and useful model once upon a time, but it stopped being that a while ago. We recognize that and we intend to change it. Improving the user experience is a high priority goal. It's not going to happen overnight. We have a number of hurdles to get over in order for things to start happening, but we are moving in that direction.
Please keep an eye on the Announce forum, the blog, our twitter account, and/or our YouTube channel. I'll be documenting progress in the summaries of our foundation meetings and in general announcements and news videos. Hopefully by this time next year we'll have our ecosystem management team in place, and they'll be up and running overseeing the work that needs to be done.