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LDC 1.34.0
Aug 26, 2023
kinke
Aug 27, 2023
drock
Aug 28, 2023
ryuukk_
Aug 28, 2023
Paolo Invernizzi
Aug 28, 2023
d007
Aug 29, 2023
d007
Aug 31, 2023
d007
August 26, 2023

Glad to announce LDC 1.34.0. Major changes:

  • Based on D 2.104.2.
  • Support for LLVM 16, incl. v16.0.6 for the prebuilt packages. Support for v9 and v10 was dropped.
  • 64-bit RISC-V: Enable ISA extensions ('rv64gc') by default when targeting an operating system.

Full release log and downloads: https://github.com/ldc-developers/ldc/releases/tag/v1.34.0

Thanks to all contributors & sponsors!

August 27, 2023

On Saturday, 26 August 2023 at 13:08:14 UTC, kinke wrote:

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Glad to announce LDC 1.34.0. Major changes:

  • Based on D 2.104.2.
  • Support for LLVM 16, incl. v16.0.6 for the prebuilt packages. Support for v9 and v10 was dropped.
  • 64-bit RISC-V: Enable ISA extensions ('rv64gc') by default when targeting an operating system.

Full release log and downloads: https://github.com/ldc-developers/ldc/releases/tag/v1.34.0

Thanks to all contributors & sponsors!

Thanks for the great work.

LDC team procuce the most important compiler with such less manpower.

Unlike other new player (rust, zig, ponylang), they are focus on llvm only backend and make great success.

The most dangerous crisis for dlang is keep loss users and developers, there can be a thousand reasons for that. not focus at one backend and imrpove it to the best is one reason.

for example Coroutines in LLVM can be add into dlang and work with C++, there is simple no manpower for it.

August 28, 2023

On Sunday, 27 August 2023 at 09:10:14 UTC, drock wrote:

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On Saturday, 26 August 2023 at 13:08:14 UTC, kinke wrote:

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Glad to announce LDC 1.34.0. Major changes:

  • Based on D 2.104.2.
  • Support for LLVM 16, incl. v16.0.6 for the prebuilt packages. Support for v9 and v10 was dropped.
  • 64-bit RISC-V: Enable ISA extensions ('rv64gc') by default when targeting an operating system.

Full release log and downloads: https://github.com/ldc-developers/ldc/releases/tag/v1.34.0

Thanks to all contributors & sponsors!

Thanks for the great work.

LDC team procuce the most important compiler with such less manpower.

Unlike other new player (rust, zig, ponylang), they are focus on llvm only backend and make great success.

The most dangerous crisis for dlang is keep loss users and developers, there can be a thousand reasons for that. not focus at one backend and imrpove it to the best is one reason.

for example Coroutines in LLVM can be add into dlang and work with C++, there is simple no manpower for it.

These languages are stuck with LLVM and as a result are known for having very bad build speed

The day D looses DMD will be the day i stop using D, DMD gives me fast build speed

I don't understand the narrative that is being pushed to get rid of DMD, this sound like sabotage rather than improvement

LDC is great for portability release/prod builds, for debug/fast iteration, DMD is unmatched, it's a competitive advantage only few languages have, having a fast compiler + LLVM based compiler is a killer combo, nobody should try to shut down DMD, it's beyond stupid

Fun fact: Zig people are working on getting rid of LLVM and they are building their own backend, must be telling something, don't you think?

ARM support for DMD would help making it future proof

August 28, 2023

On Monday, 28 August 2023 at 02:02:07 UTC, ryuukk_ wrote:

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ARM support for DMD would help making it future proof

+1

August 28, 2023

On Monday, 28 August 2023 at 02:02:07 UTC, ryuukk_ wrote:

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These languages are stuck with LLVM and as a result are known for having very bad build speed
The day D looses DMD will be the day i stop using D, DMD gives me fast build speed

I don't understand the narrative that is being pushed to get rid of DMD, this sound like sabotage rather than improvement

I guess no one try get rid off DMD, but put more resource into LDC.

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LDC is great for portability release/prod builds, for debug/fast iteration, DMD is unmatched, it's a competitive advantage only few languages have, having a fast compiler + LLVM based compiler is a killer combo, nobody should try to shut down DMD, it's beyond stupid

Fun fact: Zig people are working on getting rid of LLVM and they are building their own backend, must be telling something, don't you think?

ARM support for DMD would help making it future proof

Zig made huge success with LLVM first, then try build they own backend.

DMD is nice for play and testing, with ARM support will be great. but I hope ARM support not cost too much resource. (maybe use mold instead dmc tools)

August 29, 2023

On Saturday, 26 August 2023 at 13:08:14 UTC, kinke wrote:

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Glad to announce LDC 1.34.0. Major changes:

  • Based on D 2.104.2.
  • Support for LLVM 16, incl. v16.0.6 for the prebuilt packages. Support for v9 and v10 was dropped.
  • 64-bit RISC-V: Enable ISA extensions ('rv64gc') by default when targeting an operating system.

Full release log and downloads: https://github.com/ldc-developers/ldc/releases/tag/v1.34.0

Thanks to all contributors & sponsors!

Try link with LDC 1.34.0 release and lld linker, get this error:

lld: error: unknown argument '-func-specialization-size-threshold=1000000000'

I can see there is -Wl,-lto_library,/opt/local/ldc16/lib/libLTO-ldc.dylib -Wl,-mllvm,-func-specialization-size-threshold=1000000000 passed into clang.

August 31, 2023

On Tuesday, 29 August 2023 at 12:19:08 UTC, d007 wrote:

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Try link with LDC 1.34.0 release and lld linker, get this error:

lld: error: unknown argument '-func-specialization-size-threshold=1000000000'

I can see there is -Wl,-lto_library,/opt/local/ldc16/lib/libLTO-ldc.dylib -Wl,-mllvm,-func-specialization-size-threshold=1000000000 passed into clang.

turn out this is my scripts drop the -mllvm args pass to lld. now it work without problem.