4 days ago
On Monday, 8 September 2025 at 21:25:25 UTC, drug007 wrote:
> On 08.09.2025 22:55, Neto wrote:
>> On Monday, 8 September 2025 at 16:51:09 UTC, Serg Gini wrote:
>>>
>>> And not sure if ecosystem was a significant weight in the decision.
>> 
>> Why isn't D production ready?
>
> I've been trying to figure it out for a long time. As long as I've known this person in D community, he's always spoken negatively about D. It's strange for me. I wouldn't pay attention to his words. Yes, D is less popular than it could be, but it is production ready.

Serg's master plan is to turn D into Python 4.
3 days ago
On 09.09.2025 01:53, Kapendev wrote:
> On Monday, 8 September 2025 at 21:25:25 UTC, drug007 wrote:
>> On 08.09.2025 22:55, Neto wrote:
>>> On Monday, 8 September 2025 at 16:51:09 UTC, Serg Gini wrote:
>>>>
>>>> And not sure if ecosystem was a significant weight in the decision.
>>>
>>> Why isn't D production ready?
>>
>> I've been trying to figure it out for a long time. As long as I've known this person in D community, he's always spoken negatively about D. It's strange for me. I wouldn't pay attention to his words. Yes, D is less popular than it could be, but it is production ready.
> 
> Serg's master plan is to turn D into Python 4.

Doesn't look like that. I can't understand a man who complains about the lack of manpower in D and at the same time advises beginners to use a different language because D is unpopular. It's so strange and contradictory. With friends like him, who needs enemies?

I tried to talk to him about it. He didn't understand what I was talking about. I hope something has changed...
3 days ago
On Tuesday, 9 September 2025 at 21:08:59 UTC, drug007 wrote:
> On 09.09.2025 01:53, Kapendev wrote:
>> On Monday, 8 September 2025 at 21:25:25 UTC, drug007 wrote:
>>> On 08.09.2025 22:55, Neto wrote:
>>>> On Monday, 8 September 2025 at 16:51:09 UTC, Serg Gini wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> And not sure if ecosystem was a significant weight in the decision.
>>>>
>>>> Why isn't D production ready?
>>>
>>> I've been trying to figure it out for a long time. As long as I've known this person in D community, he's always spoken negatively about D. It's strange for me. I wouldn't pay attention to his words. Yes, D is less popular than it could be, but it is production ready.
>> 
>> Serg's master plan is to turn D into Python 4.
>
> Doesn't look like that. I can't understand a man who complains about the lack of manpower in D and at the same time advises beginners to use a different language because D is unpopular.

I'm not saying I agree with his way of seeing or saying things, but he does write D code, so that's good haha. Might also be a translation thing.
Now, would it be nice if some D users weren't so extremely critical all the time? Yes. I'm not talking about serg specifically. Serg is kinda ok actually. Just my random comment as someone that is using D maybe one year now :)
3 days ago

On Monday, 8 September 2025 at 20:10:52 UTC, Sergey wrote:

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being focused on required important tasks = complicated

I don't quite understand the item above. What's dlang's "required important tasks" now?

1 day ago

On Wednesday, 10 September 2025 at 03:46:37 UTC, felixfxu wrote:

>

On Monday, 8 September 2025 at 20:10:52 UTC, Sergey wrote:

>

being focused on required important tasks = complicated

I don't quite understand the item above. What's dlang's "required important tasks" now?

This one actually overlapping a lot with "volunteer based development"
Some tasks need to be done, but they are boring and not-sexy.
Nobody want to deal with them.

So you can't ask volunteer to concentrate on tasks they don't want to do.
Sometimes core devs are doing things they just like. And it is ok from general point of view.

It is just not how "job" is working, right? You don't say to your boss "nah.. I don't like this task - I'm not gonna do this". But in volunteer based development - there is no "boss" and there is no "job".

Another point that is going into this bucket is kinda lack of understanding of what is "important". There is no plans (at least clearly written and widely available).

Which is again partially based on underpower volunteer team

1 day ago

On Thursday, 11 September 2025 at 12:07:35 UTC, Serg Gini wrote:

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On Wednesday, 10 September 2025 at 03:46:37 UTC, felixfxu wrote:

>

On Monday, 8 September 2025 at 20:10:52 UTC, Sergey wrote:

>

being focused on required important tasks = complicated

I don't quite understand the item above. What's dlang's "required important tasks" now?

Problem with open source is not concentrating on bug fixes or keep polishing existing features to interact with others. Should be 70% fixing bugs/polishing, 30% should be for new feature(s)

Happy coding

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