May 23, 2018
On Wednesday, 23 May 2018 at 12:32:50 UTC, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:
> On 5/23/18 1:49 AM, Manu wrote:
>> On 22 May 2018 at 22:06, VectorThis via Digitalmars-d
>> <digitalmars-d@puremagic.com> wrote:
>>> On Wednesday, 23 May 2018 at 04:38:48 UTC, Manu wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sure he does! It's a fair call.
>>>
>>>
>>> Hey, it could be worse, you could have wrote this below instead..
>>> (then imagine the chaos that would unfold on the D forums)
>>>
>>> extern(C++, SomethingHere)
>>> {
>>>    void penetration();
>>>    void private();
>>> }
>> 
>> Nar, I didn't mean to start a thing...
>> 
>
> I'm just going to warn everyone here that one person is posting as KingJoffrey, VectorThis, Grady Booch, FuckYou, and in this thread he is impersonating 12345swordy, and in others he has impersonated WalterBright as well.
>
> -Steve
No kidding, as I did not write that statement. Can you please support actual web forms to prevent this impersonation?

May 23, 2018
On Wednesday, 23 May 2018 at 03:44:36 UTC, Manu wrote:
> If we can use `alias this` to mirror an entire C++ namespace into the location we want (ie, the scope immediately outside the C++ namespace!!), then one sanitary line would make the problem quite more tolerable:
>
> extern(C++, FuckOff)
> {
>   void bah();
>   void humbug();
> }
> alias this FuckOff;  // <-- symbols are now aliased where they should
> have been all along
>
>
>
> (count the seconds until the reply that says to use reflection to scan the scope, and use a mixin to... blah blah)

Had the same idea about a year ago :)

https://forum.dlang.org/post/bmawbtdaqdngoiqfoswo@forum.dlang.org
May 23, 2018
On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 02:34:07PM +0000, 12345swordy via Digitalmars-d wrote: [...]
> Can you please support actual web forms to prevent this impersonation?

Unfortunately, "actual" web forums are just as prone to impersonation to someone determined enough.


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May 23, 2018
On Wednesday, 23 May 2018 at 16:28:22 UTC, H. S. Teoh wrote:
> On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 02:34:07PM +0000, 12345swordy via Digitalmars-d wrote: [...]
>> Can you please support actual web forms to prevent this impersonation?
>
> Unfortunately, "actual" web forums are just as prone to impersonation to someone determined enough.
>
>
> T

You can make an argument against security using that logic. Regardless there are many things that a web forum can do that a mailing list can't do.
May 23, 2018
On Wednesday, 23 May 2018 at 12:32:50 UTC, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:
> I'm just going to warn everyone here that one person is posting as KingJoffrey, VectorThis, Grady Booch, FuckYou, and in this thread he is impersonating 12345swordy, and in others he has impersonated WalterBright as well.
>
> -Steve

Auch! I presume you are able to conclude this from looking at logs etc, thanks for letting us know. I wonder if the post in the name of BjarneStroustrup is from the same person.

Impersonation is a criminal offense [1] and should not be joked with. It is also difficult to prevent in general. Impersonation of another forum member is possibly easier to detect. Maybe some sort of message signing could be implemented? Even without impersonation, individuals posting under multiple identities can only have unfair intents (especially in the same thread) and it would be nice if the forum could expose this automatically. It is a shame that this would require someone's time that could well be invested elsewhere, but maybe it's just part of growing pains.

[1] https://sharpcriminalattorney.com/internet-crimes/4971/online-impersonation-the-little-brother-of-identity-theft/
May 23, 2018
On 23 May 2018 at 10:12, 12345swordy via Digitalmars-d <digitalmars-d@puremagic.com> wrote:
> On Wednesday, 23 May 2018 at 16:28:22 UTC, H. S. Teoh wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 02:34:07PM +0000, 12345swordy via Digitalmars-d wrote: [...]
>>>
>>> Can you please support actual web forms to prevent this impersonation?
>>
>>
>> Unfortunately, "actual" web forums are just as prone to impersonation to someone determined enough.
>>
>>
>> T
>
>
> You can make an argument against security using that logic. Regardless there are many things that a web forum can do that a mailing list can't do.

One thing a web forum *can't* do, is enjoy my participation. ;) If I have to load a webpage and sign in... I'm out!
May 23, 2018
On 5/23/18 1:19 PM, Bastiaan Veelo wrote:
> On Wednesday, 23 May 2018 at 12:32:50 UTC, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:
>> I'm just going to warn everyone here that one person is posting as KingJoffrey, VectorThis, Grady Booch, FuckYou, and in this thread he is impersonating 12345swordy, and in others he has impersonated WalterBright as well.
>>
> 
> Auch! I presume you are able to conclude this from looking at logs etc,

The IP address is included in the headers of the newsgroup. All of them came from the same IP. I have a filter on my thunderbird client to flag certain IPs, and his was added to the list recently.

> thanks for letting us know. I wonder if the post in the name of BjarneStroustrup is from the same person.

It was.

> Impersonation is a criminal offense [1] and should not be joked with. It is also difficult to prevent in general. Impersonation of another forum member is possibly easier to detect. Maybe some sort of message signing could be implemented? Even without impersonation, individuals posting under multiple identities can only have unfair intents (especially in the same thread) and it would be nice if the forum could expose this automatically. It is a shame that this would require someone's time that could well be invested elsewhere, but maybe it's just part of growing pains.

I would like to see at least an inability to post with the same exact handle/name as someone who has an account with that name. Or at least put such posts through moderation first.

-Steve
May 23, 2018
On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 10:28:33AM -0700, Manu via Digitalmars-d wrote:
> On 23 May 2018 at 10:12, 12345swordy via Digitalmars-d <digitalmars-d@puremagic.com> wrote:
[...]
> > You can make an argument against security using that logic. Regardless there are many things that a web forum can do that a mailing list can't do.
> 
> One thing a web forum *can't* do, is enjoy my participation. ;) If I have to load a webpage and sign in... I'm out!

While I wouldn't say that I'd be out too, my participation will certainly be much less.  But it seems we're in the minority here...


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May 24, 2018
On Wednesday, 23 May 2018 at 03:44:36 UTC, Manu wrote:
> alias this ¤%[&Off;  // <-- symbols are now aliased where they

I think it could be

with (¤%[&Off):

also.
May 24, 2018
On Wednesday, 23 May 2018 at 17:31:40 UTC, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:
> The IP address is included in the headers of the newsgroup. All of them came from the same IP. I have a filter on my thunderbird client to flag certain IPs, and his was added to the list recently.

Then again, it's possible they're family members or neighbours using the same IP. How likely this is, I won't comment.

I don't this is a case of inpersonation if you're right, since the aliases have not been trying to inpersonate any real, exact person. But dishonourable action nonetheless.