June 10, 2022 Re: Why are some types from std not in the core of the language? | ||||
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 Posted in reply to Paul Backus | On Friday, 10 June 2022 at 15:24:08 UTC, Paul Backus wrote: >On Friday, 10 June 2022 at 14:24:06 UTC, zjh wrote: >On Friday, 10 June 2022 at 14:14:46 UTC, Paul Backus wrote: >No, it's because there's too much shared mutable state, and not enough immutable objects and pure functions. Can it be improved by splitting large The size of the source files is not the problem. Wouldn't hurt though. | |||
June 12, 2022 Re: Why are some types from std not in the core of the language? | ||||
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 Posted in reply to mesni | On Friday, 10 June 2022 at 01:08:02 UTC, mesni wrote: >D has AA and arrays built into the language and runtime. But why are sumtype, arrays/smart pointers using custom allocators, nullable, tuple at the expense of std? Everything listed in this article https://dlang.org/articles/builtin.html applies to them. I think this can be done as something like an optional extension in the compiler. That's one of the reason i'm more and more using Zig these days I don't have to import some random bullshit to have tagged union with pattern matching They'll also have a language server built into the compiler as well as binary patching (meanwhile nobody merge PRs in DCD, and it ends up being a rotten software that is CRUCIAL to D adoption) D is a superior language, BY FAR, but these little things are what makes the difference when you just want to appreciate a language without people telling you to import std.sumtype to have tagged union Two different mindset, at the end, i pick what's make me the less annoyed in the long run, and that's zig's tagged union Really we need to wake up and make D better C# will have NativeAOT in the next major version btw! Our competitive features are becoming the norm, and we are failing behind in many other crucial areas | |||
June 12, 2022 Re: Why are some types from std not in the core of the language? | ||||
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 Posted in reply to ryuukk_ | On Sunday, 12 June 2022 at 13:40:16 UTC, ryuukk_ wrote: >Our competitive features are becoming the norm, and we are failing behind in many other crucial areas You're right, | |||
June 12, 2022 Re: Why are some types from std not in the core of the language? | ||||
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Posted in reply to zjh | On Sunday, 12 June 2022 at 14:29:41 UTC, zjh wrote: >
D should stop What should we do if even | |||
June 12, 2022 Re: Why are some types from std not in the core of the language? | ||||
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Posted in reply to zjh | On Sunday, 12 June 2022 at 14:34:23 UTC, zjh wrote: >What should we do if even The reason why there are few contributors is that the code can not realize A bunch of | |||
June 12, 2022 Re: Why are some types from std not in the core of the language? | ||||
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Posted in reply to zjh | On Sunday, 12 June 2022 at 14:46:29 UTC, zjh wrote: >Without A bunch of We all know the story of | |||
June 12, 2022 Re: Why are some types from std not in the core of the language? | ||||
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Posted in reply to zjh | On Sunday, 12 June 2022 at 15:05:55 UTC, zjh wrote: >We all know the story of
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June 12, 2022 Re: Why are some types from std not in the core of the language? | ||||
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 Posted in reply to zjh | On Sunday, 12 June 2022 at 14:46:29 UTC, zjh wrote: >On Sunday, 12 June 2022 at 14:34:23 UTC, zjh wrote: >What should we do if even The reason why there are few contributors is that the code can not realize A bunch of "class level encapsulation" is absolutely unnecessary. don't put your class into module scope if you don't want it's internals exposed to the module in the first place. | |||
June 12, 2022 Re: Why are some types from std not in the core of the language? | ||||
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 Posted in reply to zjh | On Sunday, 12 June 2022 at 14:34:23 UTC, zjh wrote: >D should stop People have to agree on what D3 would be like, meaning: write a spec that they agree on. | |||
June 12, 2022 Re: Why are some types from std not in the core of the language? | ||||
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 Posted in reply to Ola Fosheim Grøstad | On Sunday, 12 June 2022 at 17:29:27 UTC, Ola Fosheim Grøstad wrote:
> On Sunday, 12 June 2022 at 14:34:23 UTC, zjh wrote:
>> D should stop `'D2'`, develop `'D3'` and radically refactor `'DMD'` for `'D3'`.
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> People have to agree on what D3 would be like, meaning: write a spec that they agree on.
No. D3 will be a fork... too many people stuck in their ways at the moment :-(
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