Jonathan M Davis wrote:

>> I see. But addition of another option to the list of downloads (http://digitalmars.com/d/download.html) will not break the license?
> 
> Linking to the downloads certainly doesn't break any licenses. You're telling people where to get it, not distributing it yourself.

I see. But the initial question was -- is it possible to assemble dmd for specific (but with large community, so it is not somewhat marginal) distribution? Sources are not in public, so i can't do it for myself

>> PS: in current state, pushing mentioned Software into the repository,
>> e.g. Sisyphus (0.00(001) % from Windows users), probably will not reduce
>> any commercial profit, rather increase it by some kind of advertising :)
>> 
>> there are some examples...
> 
> If you want to restribute dmd, as long as you have a decent reason, pretty

I can contact with ALT's CEO, if you feel it usefull.

-- 

    /GLeb

* Institute of Atmospheric Optics, SB RAS, Tomsk, Russia

"gleb" <gleb@asd.iao.ru> wrote in message news:iksbsc$15kr$1@digitalmars.com...
> Jonathan M Davis wrote:
>
>>> I see. But addition of another option to the list of downloads (http://digitalmars.com/d/download.html) will not break the license?
>>
>> Linking to the downloads certainly doesn't break any licenses. You're telling people where to get it, not distributing it yourself.
>
> I see. But the initial question was -- is it possible to assemble dmd for specific (but with large community, so it is not somewhat marginal) distribution? Sources are not in public, so i can't do it for myself
>

Sure they're public. Just unpack the zip and look in the "src" directory. All the sources are right there.

gleb Wrote:
> >> Thank you, i'll see. Unfortunately i'm not shure dmd can helps and of course, peoples rudely hopes for native solution... :)
> > 
> > That will be a problem. See license:
> > ---
> > The Software is copyrighted and comes with a single user license, and may not be redistributed. If you wish to obtain a redistribution license, please contact Digital Mars.
> 
> I see. But addition of another option to the list of downloads (http://digitalmars.com/d/download.html) will not break the license?

Ermm... A specific native build for altlinux?

Al 05/03/11 04:46, En/na gleb ha escrit:
> Jonathan M Davis wrote:
> 
>>> I see. But addition of another option to the list of downloads (http://digitalmars.com/d/download.html) will not break the license?
>>
>> Linking to the downloads certainly doesn't break any licenses. You're telling people where to get it, not distributing it yourself.
> 
> I see. But the initial question was -- is it possible to assemble dmd for specific (but with large community, so it is not somewhat marginal) distribution? Sources are not in public, so i can't do it for myself

The license do not allows to "redistribute" without permission, so there is no problem if you create an alt-linux package just for Your personal use. Another option is to create the dmd alt-linux package, send it to Walter and ask him to upload to the DigitalMars ftp server.

> 
>>> PS: in current state, pushing mentioned Software into the repository,
>>> e.g. Sisyphus (0.00(001) % from Windows users), probably will not reduce
>>> any commercial profit, rather increase it by some kind of advertising :)
>>>
>>> there are some examples...
>>
>> If you want to restribute dmd, as long as you have a decent reason, pretty
> 
> I can contact with ALT's CEO, if you feel it usefull.
> 

What's the approximate total amount of people that uses ALT-Linux?

-- 
Jordi Sayol

On 2011-03-05 04:42, gleb wrote:
> Jacob Carlborg wrote:
>
>>>> You might want to have a look at: https://bitbucket.org/doob/dvm
>>> Is it ready to properly manage 1.67/2.52 and newer? (32/64 bit compiling)
>
>>
>> Only 32bit.
>>
>
> well, i'm on x86_64, for example :(
>

Currently the 64bit version is only available on linux and pretty new and not as well tested as the 32bit version.

-- 
/Jacob Carlborg

gleb Wrote:

> Thank you, i'll see. Unfortunately i'm not shure dmd can helps and of course, peoples rudely hopes for native solution... :)

What do you mean? Do you want to say, that linux applications are not native for linux?

"gleb" <gleb@asd.iao.ru> wrote in message news:iksbk4$153a$1@digitalmars.com...
> Jacob Carlborg wrote:
>
>>>> You might want to have a look at: https://bitbucket.org/doob/dvm
>>> Is it ready to properly manage 1.67/2.52 and newer? (32/64 bit compiling)
>
>>
>> Only 32bit.
>>
>
> well, i'm on x86_64, for example :(
>

Even on that, you can still compile to 32 bit and run. (Although if you're doing scientific computing then maybe you really do need to compile for 64 bit.)

"Kagamin" <spam@here.lot> wrote in message news:iktd73$2vqd$1@digitalmars.com...
> gleb Wrote:
>
>> Thank you, i'll see. Unfortunately i'm not shure dmd can helps and of course, peoples rudely hopes for native solution... :)
>
> What do you mean? Do you want to say, that linux applications are not native for linux?

I think he means that some people expect unix apps to do things "the unix way", which is scattering the parts of each application across the filesystem.

Nick Sabalausky wrote:

>>> Thank you, i'll see. Unfortunately i'm not shure dmd can helps and of course, peoples rudely hopes for native solution... :)
>>

> I think he means that some people expect unix apps to do things "the unix way", which is scattering the parts of each application across the filesystem.

No, i mean application coherently builded accross distribution, i.e., using dynamically linked libraries, not conflicting with any apps/libraries and so on.

-- 

    /GLeb

* Institute of Atmospheric Optics, SB RAS, Tomsk, Russia

Jordi Sayol wrote:


> 
> What's the approximate total amount of people that uses ALT-Linux?

Hard to estimate, i do afraid.

If overlook some statistic of ALT's forum (http://forum.altlinux.org/index.php?action=stats), there are circa 6680 of *registered* users in the forum and even more in subscription lists (http://lists.altlinux.org/). In another side, ALT is the second mentioned distribution in xUSSR (after Ubuntu, of course). And finally, it is base of the state project of implementation of free and open software for school and goverment use. By statistic of 2008, there are circa 70000 general (1 -- 11 years of education) schools in Russia (http://medportal.ru/enc/parentschildren/school/16/), so common quantity of pupil may be estimated in 20 000 000, so as minimum 9 000 000 of pupils should teach IT. 30% of schools should use Linux exclusively or together with Windows. So may mention upper estimate as 2 700 000 active users. As far as i can imagine by discussions, 60% of that choose ALT and derivatives, rest prefer Ubuntu (Kubuntu, Edubuntu). Some percents selects Open SuSe and Mandriva. So rough and optimistic estimation of summary ALT's user base may be circa 1 620 000 of pupils. Of cource, many of that 30% of schools does not use any Lniux at all, so estimation should be reduced, but from the other side, there are many professional peoples in IT and companies besides education that defenitelly do.

But in any case, estimated user base is substantively large and may be interested to propagate technology of D among them. :)


-- 

    /GLeb

* Institute of Atmospheric Optics, SB RAS, Tomsk, Russia