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June 03, 2011 [Issue 6094] New: && doesn't shortcut properly with CTFE | ||||
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http://d.puremagic.com/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=6094 Summary: && doesn't shortcut properly with CTFE Product: D Version: unspecified Platform: All OS/Version: All Status: NEW Severity: normal Priority: P2 Component: DMD AssignedTo: nobody@puremagic.com ReportedBy: jmdavisProg@gmx.com --- Comment #0 from Jonathan M Davis <jmdavisProg@gmx.com> 2011-06-02 21:18:02 PDT --- This bool func(alias pred = "a == b")(dchar a, dchar b) { enum defaultPred = is(typeof(pred) : string) && pred == "a == b"; return defaultPred; } void main() { func('a', 'b'); func!((dchar a, dchar b){return false;})('a', 'b'); } fails to compile, giving this error: q.d(3): Error: incompatible types for ((__dgliteral1) == ("a == b")): 'bool delegate(dchar a, dchar b)' and 'string' q.d(11): Error: template instance q.main.func!(delegate bool(dchar a, dchar b) { return false; } ) error instantiating It's obviously trying to evaluate pred == "a == b" in spite of the fact that is(typeof(pred) : string) failed, which means that && isn't shortcutting like it's supposed to. -- Configure issuemail: http://d.puremagic.com/issues/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- |
June 03, 2011 [Issue 6094] && doesn't shortcut properly with CTFE | ||||
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Posted in reply to Jonathan M Davis | http://d.puremagic.com/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=6094 Steven Schveighoffer <schveiguy@yahoo.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |schveiguy@yahoo.com --- Comment #1 from Steven Schveighoffer <schveiguy@yahoo.com> 2011-06-02 21:27:28 PDT --- Hm... I'm not so sure this is a valid requirement. && shortcuts *running* the code if the first test fails, but it doesn't shortcut *compiling* the code. I think you need to use a static if in this case. For example, I'd expect this also to fail to compile: void main() { int x; if(is(typeof(x) == string) && x == "5") {} } But I'd expect this to work: void main() { int x; static if(is(typeof(x) == string)) if(x == "5") {} } I would expect something like this to work in your example instead: static if(is(typeof(pred) : string)) enum defaultPred = (pred == "a == b"); else enum defaultPred = false; -- Configure issuemail: http://d.puremagic.com/issues/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- |
June 03, 2011 [Issue 6094] && doesn't shortcut properly with CTFE | ||||
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Posted in reply to Jonathan M Davis | http://d.puremagic.com/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=6094 Jonathan M Davis <jmdavisProg@gmx.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution| |INVALID --- Comment #2 from Jonathan M Davis <jmdavisProg@gmx.com> 2011-06-02 21:33:39 PDT --- Hmmm. It's essentially what std.string.icmp tries to do: enum isLessThan = is(pred : string) && pred == "a < b"; so, obviously someone else was thinking that it should work (though given this behavior, it's obviously a bug in icmp). So, it wasn't my idea at all, but you do have a good point about shortcutting running code rather than the compilation. Bleh. I'd like it to work, but I think that you're right. -- Configure issuemail: http://d.puremagic.com/issues/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- |
June 03, 2011 [Issue 6094] && doesn't shortcut properly with CTFE | ||||
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Posted in reply to Jonathan M Davis | http://d.puremagic.com/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=6094 Andrei Alexandrescu <andrei@metalanguage.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|RESOLVED |REOPENED CC| |andrei@metalanguage.com Resolution|INVALID | --- Comment #3 from Andrei Alexandrescu <andrei@metalanguage.com> 2011-06-02 22:36:59 PDT --- Let's leave this in. Short circuit evaluation during compilation is sensible and simplifies a lot of code. -- Configure issuemail: http://d.puremagic.com/issues/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- |
June 03, 2011 [Issue 6094] && doesn't shortcut properly with CTFE | ||||
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Posted in reply to Jonathan M Davis | http://d.puremagic.com/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=6094 Brad Roberts <braddr@puremagic.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |braddr@puremagic.com --- Comment #4 from Brad Roberts <braddr@puremagic.com> 2011-06-02 22:50:41 PDT --- Unless I'm missing something, actually intermixing evaluation and semantic analysis enough to pull this sort of thing off would be enormously intrusive. Additionally, do we _really_ want compile time code execution semantics to be that different from runtime execution semantics? My gut says, "No way." -- Configure issuemail: http://d.puremagic.com/issues/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- |
June 03, 2011 [Issue 6094] && doesn't shortcut properly with CTFE | ||||
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Posted in reply to Jonathan M Davis | http://d.puremagic.com/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=6094 --- Comment #5 from Steven Schveighoffer <schveiguy@yahoo.com> 2011-06-03 06:29:02 PDT --- The problem I see with allowing this is, it won't compile as non-CTFE, even though normally CTFE-able functions can still be used during runtime. For example, if you have this: string foo() { if(0 && "hello" == 1) return "impossible!"; return "abc"; } Then how does one mark this as "don't compile this in normal mode, only compile this during ctfe". I suppose you could do version(ctfe) around the function, but I feel this is just as easy (and more accurate) to redo with a static if. I really think this bug is invalid, but I won't change it in case I'm wrong :) -- Configure issuemail: http://d.puremagic.com/issues/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- |
June 03, 2011 [Issue 6094] && doesn't shortcut properly with CTFE | ||||
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Posted in reply to Jonathan M Davis | http://d.puremagic.com/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=6094 --- Comment #6 from Jonathan M Davis <jmdavisProg@gmx.com> 2011-06-03 10:24:52 PDT --- Well, if it were allowed, I would expect to only work in places that _had_ to be evaluated at compile-time - such as the value of enums or inside template constraints. It would have to be stuff where it may sense to shortcut the compilation. Inside of a function which may or may not be called with CTFE definitely wouldn't qualify for that. -- Configure issuemail: http://d.puremagic.com/issues/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- |
June 06, 2011 [Issue 6094] && doesn't shortcut properly with CTFE | ||||
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Posted in reply to Jonathan M Davis | http://d.puremagic.com/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=6094 Don <clugdbug@yahoo.com.au> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |clugdbug@yahoo.com.au --- Comment #7 from Don <clugdbug@yahoo.com.au> 2011-06-06 01:45:43 PDT --- (In reply to comment #4) > Unless I'm missing something, actually intermixing evaluation and semantic analysis enough to pull this sort of thing off would be enormously intrusive. > > Additionally, do we _really_ want compile time code execution semantics to be that different from runtime execution semantics? My gut says, "No way." There are *no* existing instances where CTFE ever does semantic analysis. CTFE happens far too late for that. In fact CTFE isn't involved at all, the desired behaviour would happen in the constant folding step -- but it doesn't do semantic analysis either. This would seem to be a request to change the semantics of the && operator to allow things like: enum bool XXX = false && undefined; to compile. As well as being complicated to implement, I really don't think that would be a good idea. It would introduce a corner case: bool YYY = false && undefined; // doesn't compile, still won't compile? const bool ZZZ = false && undefined; // I think this must be forbidden. is(typeof(false && undefined)) presumably would still return false, even though it does compile in the XXX case. Would any of these compile? bool foo(bool z) { return z; } enum bool AAA = foo(false && undefined); enum int BBB = (false && undefined) ? 7 : 3; enum int CCC = false ? undefined : 6; enum bool DDD = true || undefined; enum bool BBB = !((true || undefined)) && undefined2; The thing which is particularly difficult about implementing this, is that you cannot run the semantic pass on the second branch of an && expression, until you have run the optimizer pass on the first branch. And what happens with this: enum bool CCC = is(typeof(false && undefined)); Currently that returns false. -- Configure issuemail: http://d.puremagic.com/issues/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- |
June 23, 2011 [Issue 6094] && doesn't shortcut properly with CTFE | ||||
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Posted in reply to Jonathan M Davis | http://d.puremagic.com/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=6094 Don <clugdbug@yahoo.com.au> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Severity|normal |enhancement -- Configure issuemail: http://d.puremagic.com/issues/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- |
June 30, 2011 [Issue 6094] && doesn't shortcut properly with CTFE | ||||
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Posted in reply to Jonathan M Davis | http://d.puremagic.com/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=6094 Rob Jacques <sandford@jhu.edu> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |sandford@jhu.edu Severity|enhancement |regression --- Comment #8 from Rob Jacques <sandford@jhu.edu> 2011-06-29 22:01:37 PDT --- I'm pretty sure this is a regression between DMD 2.052 and DMD 2.053. I found this 'regression' in template constraints: if( isPointer!T && isPointer!(pointerTarget!T) ) the problem is that if T is a string, then pointerTarget!T can not compile. This wouldn't be an issue if that meant the template constraint failed gracefully, but instead it halts compilation. Anyways, there is the question of whether or not shortcutting is the correct behavior. From a performance point of view, as someone who has spent time optimizing templates for compile times, anything that can reduce DMD's memory-usage or compile times is a good thing. From a practical point of view, being able to guard statements without using a static if is great for template constraints and other short templates. From a consistently point of view CTFE is already shortcutting everything inside a if(!__ctfe){} block. (and probably other if(false){} blocks as well). And we will never be able give up shortcutting if(!__ctfe){} blocks. -- Configure issuemail: http://d.puremagic.com/issues/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- |
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