June 08, 2011 Re: Is it reasonable to learn D | ||||
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Posted in reply to Kagamin | >> http://h3.gd/code/nucleus/
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> I lol'd at the suggestion to upgrade my FF4 to a modern HTML5-compliant browser.
^^ No problems with Opera.
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June 08, 2011 Re: Is it reasonable to learn D | ||||
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Posted in reply to Trass3r | Trass3r wrote:
>> - The D compiler has only bad code optimization
> Yep, but there is LDC and GDC which use LLVM and GCC as backends respectively.
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>> - There are no maintained GUI libraries
> I wouldn't agree with that. Some people are still working on GtkD, QtD and DWT.
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>> - The development of the compiler is very slow
> More and more people are contributing patches so development has definitely become faster.
> Also Don has more or less taken over development of the CTFE functionality. Nice trend.
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>> - Only a small community
>> => no real German community
> There is no separate German community but there are plenty of Germans here.
> Manchmal sieht man sie nur nicht sofort ^^
z.B. Don wohnt in Deutschland.
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June 08, 2011 Re: Is it reasonable to learn D | ||||
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Posted in reply to Trass3r | No problem with FF3. You should upgrade FF4 to FF3 I guess. :P |
June 08, 2011 Re: Is it reasonable to learn D | ||||
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Posted in reply to Don | I'm very surprised that there are so many Germans who use D. Maybe the German D book is a reason for that. I don't know but it's pretty cool. |
June 08, 2011 Re: Is it reasonable to learn D | ||||
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Posted in reply to Don | On 6/8/11 9:16 PM, Don wrote:
> Trass3r wrote:
>>> - The D compiler has only bad code optimization
>> Yep, but there is LDC and GDC which use LLVM and GCC as backends
>> respectively.
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>>> - There are no maintained GUI libraries
>> I wouldn't agree with that. Some people are still working on GtkD, QtD
>> and DWT.
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>>> - The development of the compiler is very slow
>> More and more people are contributing patches so development has
>> definitely become faster.
>> Also Don has more or less taken over development of the CTFE
>> functionality. Nice trend.
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>>> - Only a small community
>>> => no real German community
>> There is no separate German community but there are plenty of Germans
>> here.
>> Manchmal sieht man sie nur nicht sofort ^^
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> z.B. Don wohnt in Deutschland.
Ein paar Österreicher sind auch mit von der Partie. :)
David
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June 08, 2011 Re: Is it reasonable to learn D | ||||
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Posted in reply to David Nadlinger | Das ist ja klasse. Deutschland, Österreich, Schweiz - alle da |
June 09, 2011 Re: Is it reasonable to learn D | ||||
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Posted in reply to Andrej Mitrovic | Andrej Mitrovic Wrote:
> No problem with FF3. You should upgrade FF4 to FF3 I guess. :P
Your FF3 seems to use Adobe Flash instead of HTML5 video.
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June 13, 2011 Re: Is it reasonable to learn D | ||||
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Posted in reply to Fabian | Let's learn together then! :P http://galador.net/codeblog/?tag=/D While my blog post are only about setting up the environment so far.. I have delved in the code for 2 weeks now! (Although I had some day off (work and programing) in Darwin) I'm right into it now, should have a new blog post soon! About programing this time! My verdict: it's frustrating yes. But D has a couple of advantages and 2 that you might like: - D has event / delegate, just like C# (and unlike C++, or maybe C++ has them, (it has method pointer, right!?) but it's not taken advantage of!) - the above point is probably what makes the C++ GUI so... difficult. Whereas I found a GUI API for D just like WinForm! (DGui!) In short summary I found these cool things: VisualD 0.3.24 (plugin for programing from Visual Studio) http://www.dsource.org/projects/visuald VisualD NOTE: (system tweaks)(required) : edit sc.ini http://www.dsource.org/projects/visuald/wiki/KnownIssues#Librarysearchpathnotpassedtolinker DGui 02052011 (WinForm like API) http://code.google.com/p/dgui/ Doost (r88) (serialization) http://www.dsource.org/projects/doost Windows API r371 http://dsource.org/projects/bindings/wiki/WindowsApi "Fabian" wrote in message news:islvgf$1b61$1@digitalmars.com... Dear D Community, is it reasonable to learn D? I've found a lot of good points for D but I've found a lot of negative points too. I believe that I needn't to list all the point for D but I want to give a few examples against learning D I've read in some German and English boards: - The D compiler has only bad code optimization - There are no maintained GUI libraries - The development of the compiler is very slow - Only a small community => no real German community So I ask you - Is it reasonable to learn D? I'm looking forward to your answers. Greetings Fabian PS: If you want to contact me you are allowed to write an Email to me. contact-fab@freemail.de |
June 14, 2011 Re: Is it reasonable to learn D | ||||
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Posted in reply to Lloyd Dupont | On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 6:33 AM, Lloyd Dupont <ld-REMOVE@galador.net> wrote: > Let's learn together then! :P http://galador.net/codeblog/?tag=/D > > While my blog post are only about setting up the environment so far.. I have delved in the code for 2 weeks now! (Although I had some day off (work and programing) in Darwin) I'm right into it now, should have a new blog post soon! About programing this time! > > My verdict: it's frustrating yes. But D has a couple of advantages and 2 > that you might like: > - D has event / delegate, just like C# (and unlike C++, or maybe C++ has > them, (it has method pointer, right!?) but it's not taken advantage of!) > - the above point is probably what makes the C++ GUI so... difficult. > Whereas I found a GUI API for D just like WinForm! (DGui!) > Boost, GTK+ and QT have signals. E.g. http://www.boost.org/doc/libs/1_46_1/doc/html/signals.html |
June 14, 2011 Re: Is it reasonable to learn D | ||||
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Posted in reply to Jose Armando Garcia | Too late! :P I have been inspired by the simplicity of D and DGui. Never happened before with earlier C++ experiments... my loss! "Jose Armando Garcia" wrote in message news:mailman.906.1308016642.14074.digitalmars-d-learn@puremagic.com... On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 6:33 AM, Lloyd Dupont <ld-REMOVE@galador.net> wrote: > Let's learn together then! :P > http://galador.net/codeblog/?tag=/D > > While my blog post are only about setting up the environment so far.. I have > delved in the code for 2 weeks now! (Although I had some day off (work and > programing) in Darwin) I'm right into it now, should have a new blog post > soon! About programing this time! > > My verdict: it's frustrating yes. But D has a couple of advantages and 2 > that you might like: > - D has event / delegate, just like C# (and unlike C++, or maybe C++ has > them, (it has method pointer, right!?) but it's not taken advantage of!) > - the above point is probably what makes the C++ GUI so... difficult. > Whereas I found a GUI API for D just like WinForm! (DGui!) > Boost, GTK+ and QT have signals. E.g. http://www.boost.org/doc/libs/1_46_1/doc/html/signals.html |
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