On Sat, Jun 18, 2011 at 6:36 PM, Andrei Alexandrescu < SeeWebsiteForEmail@erdani.org> wrote:

> I'm very happy to announce that TDPL has entered the Amazon Kindle
> bestsellers list for Computer Programming, starting at position 94:
> http://www.amazon.com/gp/**bestsellers/digital-text/**
> 156140011/ref=pd_zg_hrsr_kinc_**1_5_last<http://www.amazon.com/gp/bestsellers/digital-text/156140011/ref=pd_zg_hrsr_kinc_1_5_last>
>
> Andrei
>
>
I just got it for the Kindle so I'm going to go ahead and attribute this success to myself.  Go me and my money!  Once I finish it I'll write a review.  Maybe that'll bump it up a spot in the best reviewed category ;)

On 6/20/11 3:28 AM, Brad Anderson wrote:
> On Sat, Jun 18, 2011 at 6:36 PM, Andrei Alexandrescu
> <SeeWebsiteForEmail@erdani.org <mailto:SeeWebsiteForEmail@erdani.org>>
> wrote:
>
>     I'm very happy to announce that TDPL has entered the Amazon Kindle
>     bestsellers list for Computer Programming, starting at position 94:
>     http://www.amazon.com/gp/__bestsellers/digital-text/__156140011/ref=pd_zg_hrsr_kinc___1_5_last
>     <http://www.amazon.com/gp/bestsellers/digital-text/156140011/ref=pd_zg_hrsr_kinc_1_5_last>
>
>     Andrei
>
>
> I just got it for the Kindle so I'm going to go ahead and attribute this
> success to myself.  Go me and my money!

That must be indeed true. TDPL only stayed briefly on the bestsellers list, and that was because of a brief surge in Kindle sales this weekend.

> Once I finish it I'll write a review. Maybe that'll bump it up a spot
> in the best reviewed category ;)

Well don't assume your review will be favorable before you finish reading :o).


Thanks,

Andrei

"Walter Bright" <newshound2@digitalmars.com> wrote in message news:itm9mu$1k99$1@digitalmars.com...
>
> The one thing I'm not ripping are movies. Netflix has changed everything for me. With so much available to watch, I don't care to rewatch any old movies. There's no reason to buy, own, archive, or collect a DVD anymore.

I don't buy DVDs anymore, but for different reasons: PUOs, DRM, and Libraries.

I don't know how it is in other parts of the country (or other countries), but Ohio's libraries are good enough to make Netflix look slow, overpriced and pointless. I can order whatever I want from almost any library in the greater Cleveland area, or any college library in the state, have it shipped just down the street (yea, not to my doorstep, but I like having a reason to actually get out of the house, so that's a *plus* for me). I can have a whole bunch of them out at one time, 10+, etc, no problem. If I want something *now* I can just go and pick something out on-the-spot and not have to deal with high-compression or high-latency streaming or give up the DVD-bonuses or multiple language/subtitle tracks (*not* something you want to give up with anime). There's no regular fee, and you don't have any problems with late fees as long as you're actually responsible. And even with occasional late fees, it's still far cheaper (and can have far more out at one time) than Netflix - and that was true back when the late fees were $1/day. Now they're around 10-20 cents a day. You'd have to be insanely irresponsible for that to even start to compare to the price of Netflix. Plus most stuff goes out for 3 weeks at a time, with up to 20 renewals as long as no one else has it on hold (and popular stuff they have a ton of copies of). Oh, and messed up discs aren't a problem as often as you'd think.

"Walter Bright" <newshound2@digitalmars.com> wrote in message news:itmh8e$209r$1@digitalmars.com...
> On 6/19/2011 8:51 PM, Jonathan M Davis wrote:
>> I don't like reading off screens - especially small screens. I much
>> prefer
>> actual books. And I have no problem with other people wanting e-books
>> just so
>> long as it doesn't result in my not being to get physical books anymore.
>> I'm
>> just afraid that the general trend will lead to physical books dying out,
>> which I would consider to be horrible for reading - especially for
>> novels.
>
> I suspect that the pulp paperbacks will largely disappear within 5 years, much like film cameras.
>

I've been guessing that will only happen when DRM starts going away. Than again, most consumers are complete morons...(The "dancing pigs" theory and all that...)

On 6/20/2011 12:13 PM, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
> I've been guessing that will only happen when DRM starts going away. Than
> again, most consumers are complete morons...(The "dancing pigs" theory and
> all that...)

Notice that DRM has faded away on downloadable music. I suspect there will be increasing pressure to remove it for books, too.

On 6/20/2011 12:02 PM, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
> I can have a
> whole bunch of them out at one time, 10+, etc, no problem.

Sounds like your Ohio system is great. There isn't one like that here.

Anyhow, I thought that only one DVD at a time would be an issue with Netflix. Turns out, it is fine. It winds up being about 2 a week. There's plenty of streaming stuff in between DVDs. I don't really need a reason to watch more DVDs!

"Walter Bright" <newshound2@digitalmars.com> wrote in message news:ito7i8$1tb7$1@digitalmars.com...
> On 6/20/2011 12:13 PM, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
>> I've been guessing that will only happen when DRM starts going away. Than
>> again, most consumers are complete morons...(The "dancing pigs" theory
>> and
>> all that...)
>
> Notice that DRM has faded away on downloadable music.

Has it? I really haven't been paying attention to (legally) downloadable music since when I did look at it, it was all either heavily DRMed or MP3. I know the iTunes store started offering DRM-less stuff, but they were charging extra for it, so I wasn't interested (especially since I could rip the DRM out myself).

> I suspect there will be increasing pressure to remove it for books, too.
>

I hope so. Then I'd likely be interested in an ebook reader.

On Mon, 20 Jun 2011 15:49:33 -0400, Nick Sabalausky <a@a.a> wrote:

> "Walter Bright" <newshound2@digitalmars.com> wrote in message
> news:ito7i8$1tb7$1@digitalmars.com...
>> On 6/20/2011 12:13 PM, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
>>> I've been guessing that will only happen when DRM starts going away. Than
>>> again, most consumers are complete morons...(The "dancing pigs" theory
>>> and
>>> all that...)
>>
>> Notice that DRM has faded away on downloadable music.
>
> Has it? I really haven't been paying attention to (legally) downloadable
> music since when I did look at it, it was all either heavily DRMed or MP3. I
> know the iTunes store started offering DRM-less stuff, but they were
> charging extra for it, so I wasn't interested (especially since I could rip
> the DRM out myself).

iTunes (at least the music part of it) is DRM free.  You can no longer
download DRM'd songs from apple (and you can re-download DRM-free versions
of any songs you purchased before they made this change for free).

Yes, they are charging more for some songs, and less for others.  But as
far as I know, there is no fee for removing DRM.  The increase in price
was a compromise to get the artists to agree to remove DRM from all the
songs.  They are also charging less in some cases (but probably only on
songs nobody wants :).  The increase is not exorbitant.  From what I
remember it was 1.29 instead of .99 per song.  I don't know the exact
details, I haven't bought many songs from iTunes, my current ripped tracks
are usually good enough :)

-Steve

On Mon, 20 Jun 2011 15:49:33 -0400, Nick Sabalausky <a@a.a> wrote:

> "Walter Bright" <newshound2@digitalmars.com> wrote in message
> news:ito7i8$1tb7$1@digitalmars.com...
>> On 6/20/2011 12:13 PM, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
>>> I've been guessing that will only happen when DRM starts going away. Than
>>> again, most consumers are complete morons...(The "dancing pigs" theory
>>> and
>>> all that...)
>>
>> Notice that DRM has faded away on downloadable music.
>
> Has it? I really haven't been paying attention to (legally) downloadable
> music since when I did look at it, it was all either heavily DRMed or MP3. I
> know the iTunes store started offering DRM-less stuff, but they were
> charging extra for it, so I wasn't interested (especially since I could rip
> the DRM out myself).

iTunes (at least the music part of it) is DRM free.  You can no longer
download DRM'd songs from apple (and you can re-download DRM-free versions
of any songs you purchased before they made this change for free).

Yes, they are charging more for some songs, and less for others.  But as
far as I know, there is no fee for removing DRM.  The increase in price
was a compromise to get the artists to agree to remove DRM from all the
songs.  They are also charging less in some cases (but probably only on
songs nobody wants :).  The increase is not exorbitant.  From what I
remember it was 1.29 instead of .99 per song.  I don't know the exact
details, I haven't bought many songs from iTunes, my current ripped tracks
are usually good enough :)

-Steve

"Steven Schveighoffer" <schveiguy@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:op.vxecf1treav7ka@localhost.localdomain...
> On Mon, 20 Jun 2011 15:49:33 -0400, Nick Sabalausky <a@a.a> wrote:
>
>> "Walter Bright" <newshound2@digitalmars.com> wrote in message news:ito7i8$1tb7$1@digitalmars.com...
>>> On 6/20/2011 12:13 PM, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
>>>> I've been guessing that will only happen when DRM starts going away.
>>>> Than
>>>> again, most consumers are complete morons...(The "dancing pigs" theory
>>>> and
>>>> all that...)
>>>
>>> Notice that DRM has faded away on downloadable music.
>>
>> Has it? I really haven't been paying attention to (legally) downloadable
>> music since when I did look at it, it was all either heavily DRMed or
>> MP3. I
>> know the iTunes store started offering DRM-less stuff, but they were
>> charging extra for it, so I wasn't interested (especially since I could
>> rip
>> the DRM out myself).
>
> iTunes (at least the music part of it) is DRM free.  You can no longer download DRM'd songs from apple (and you can re-download DRM-free versions of any songs you purchased before they made this change for free).
>
> Yes, they are charging more for some songs, and less for others.  But as far as I know, there is no fee for removing DRM.  The increase in price was a compromise to get the artists to agree to remove DRM from all the songs.  They are also charging less in some cases (but probably only on songs nobody wants :).  The increase is not exorbitant.  From what I remember it was 1.29 instead of .99 per song.  I don't know the exact details, I haven't bought many songs from iTunes, my current ripped tracks are usually good enough :)
>

Interesting. Yea, I guess my info on that is out of date then. Last I heard they had just started adding the option (to some songs) of paying $0.30 extra to get a DRM-less lossless version. Glad to hear that turned out to just be a stepping stone.