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readf with strings
Jun 22, 2011
GreatEmerald
Jun 22, 2011
Ali Çehreli
Jun 22, 2011
Ali Çehreli
Jun 22, 2011
Andrej Mitrovic
Jun 22, 2011
Ali Çehreli
Jun 22, 2011
Andrej Mitrovic
Jun 22, 2011
Jimmy Cao
Jun 22, 2011
Ali Çehreli
Jun 22, 2011
bearophile
Jun 23, 2011
Kai Meyer
Jun 22, 2011
Kai Meyer
June 22, 2011
This should be a very elementary question. How do you get a string off stdin? Or an integer, or a boolean, for that matter? If I use this:

  float MyFloat;
  string MyString;
  readf("%f", &MyFloat);
  writeln(MyFloat);
  readf("%s", &MyString);
  writeln(MyString);

I get the float printed correctly, but when it asks to input the string, whatever I input gets ignored - I can't reach the writeln part in any way and I have to forcibly close the program. The same thing is with ints - if I enter an int, it acts as if I didn't enter anything at all. But floats work fine for some reason. Any thoughts about what is happening there?

I'm using openSUSE 11.4 and DMD 2.053.
June 22, 2011
On Wed, 22 Jun 2011 14:57:57 +0000, GreatEmerald wrote:

> This should be a very elementary question. How do you get a string off stdin? Or an integer, or a boolean, for that matter? If I use this:
> 
>   float MyFloat;
>   string MyString;
>   readf("%f", &MyFloat);
>   writeln(MyFloat);
>   readf("%s", &MyString);
>   writeln(MyString);
> 
> I get the float printed correctly, but when it asks to input the string, whatever I input gets ignored - I can't reach the writeln part in any way and I have to forcibly close the program. The same thing is with ints - if I enter an int, it acts as if I didn't enter anything at all. But floats work fine for some reason. Any thoughts about what is happening there?
> 
> I'm using openSUSE 11.4 and DMD 2.053.

Reading from an input stream is sometimes confusing.

Things to remember:

- Use %s for any type unless there is reason not to

- The line terminator from the previous entry is still in the input. (You may call readf(" ") to flush those white space characters. (I've just discovered this.))

- string can hold any character including space and the line terminator. That's why pressing the Enter doesn't terminate reading a string.

- Use a space character before any format specifier to ignore zero or more whitespace characters before the previous input: " %s".

- To read a string (actually a line), use chomp(readln())

- I don't know whether this is intended and I don't think that we should routinely use this: The EOF (Ctrl-D on Unix consoles, Ctrl-Z on Windows) terminates reading the string but strangely not the entire input.

import std.stdio;
import std.string;

void main()
{
    float MyFloat;
    readf(" %s", &MyFloat);
    writeln(MyFloat);

    readf(" ");

    string MyString = chomp(readln());
    writeln(MyString);
}

Ali
June 22, 2011
I see. Using %s does indeed work with ints, and chomp(readln()) works
with strings. It's rather counter-intuitive, though.
I wonder why there isn't a simpler way to do this, something like
writeln() - you could input the variables as parameters and it would
automatically read them...
June 22, 2011
On Wed, 22 Jun 2011 20:59:46 +0300, Dainius (GreatEmerald) wrote:

> I see. Using %s does indeed work with ints, and chomp(readln()) works
> with strings. It's rather counter-intuitive, though.

There are many counter intuitive bits and imperfect modelling in stream I/ O. For example "42a" is perfectly fine when reading an int because the reader decides that the '4' and '2' characters make up the int and 'a' must be for something else. Why? :) What if I really meant that "42a" should be read as int. It should be an error!

I think strings are special because they are powerful to take any character.

Additionally output and input are not symmetrical: The ints 1 and 2 would be written as 12 back to back but they can't be read as two ints.

> I wonder why there
> isn't a simpler way to do this, something like writeln() - you could
> input the variables as parameters and it would automatically read
> them...

I know that the insistence on the space character to munch white space is intentional. Andrei commented on a bug that this is more consistent than scanf()'s implicit munching.

There is <cstream> that is being (is?) deprecated. It reads simpler like writeln:

import std.cstream;

void main()
{
    double d;
    int i;
    din.readf(&d, &i);
    dout.writefln("d: %s, i: %s", d, i);
}

It would still be problematic with strings. How many characters should be a part of it?

Ali
June 22, 2011
This library has some nice user-input methods for D2: https://github.com/he-the-great/JPDLibs/tree/cmdln
June 22, 2011
On Wed, 22 Jun 2011 20:17:39 +0200, Andrej Mitrovic wrote:

> This library has some nice user-input methods for D2: https://github.com/he-the-great/JPDLibs/tree/cmdln

Thanks! :)

The Turkish D community has experimented with a similar solution:

  http://ddili.org/forum/post/2960

"oku" means "read":

    // Read into an existing variable
    double d;
    oku("Please enter a double: ", &d);

    // Read and return a value
    int i = oku!int("Please enter an int: ");

Ali
June 22, 2011
I didn't know there was a Turkish D community. :)
June 22, 2011
On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 1:31 PM, Ali Çehreli <acehreli@yahoo.com> wrote:

> On Wed, 22 Jun 2011 20:17:39 +0200, Andrej Mitrovic wrote:
>
> > This library has some nice user-input methods for D2: https://github.com/he-the-great/JPDLibs/tree/cmdln
>
> Thanks! :)
>
> The Turkish D community has experimented with a similar solution:
>
>  http://ddili.org/forum/post/2960
>
> "oku" means "read":
>
>    // Read into an existing variable
>    double d;
>    oku("Please enter a double: ", &d);
>
>    // Read and return a value
>    int i = oku!int("Please enter an int: ");
>
> Ali
>

The design of this community site is quite splendid.  So D has three major language sub-communities:  German, Japanese, and Turkish?


June 22, 2011
On Wed, 22 Jun 2011 13:45:56 -0500, Jimmy Cao wrote:

> On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 1:31 PM, Ali Çehreli <acehreli@yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
>> On Wed, 22 Jun 2011 20:17:39 +0200, Andrej Mitrovic wrote:
>>
>> > This library has some nice user-input methods for D2: https://github.com/he-the-great/JPDLibs/tree/cmdln
>>
>> Thanks! :)
>>
>> The Turkish D community has experimented with a similar solution:
>>
>>  http://ddili.org/forum/post/2960

> The design of this community site is quite splendid.

Thank you! :) We have three books too:

- D Programming Language (complete, except special memory management like emplace(), the 'new' and 'delete' operators, interacting with the garbage collector, etc. That chapter is being written as we speak)

- GtkD (needs work)

- Game Programming with SDL (freshly started; moving on pretty well)

  http://ddili.org/ders/index.html

> So D has three
> major language sub-communities:  German, Japanese, and Turkish?

The wiki lists others:

  http://www.prowiki.org/wiki4d/wiki.cgi

Ali
June 22, 2011
On 06/22/2011 09:30 AM, Ali Çehreli wrote:
> On Wed, 22 Jun 2011 14:57:57 +0000, GreatEmerald wrote:
>
>> This should be a very elementary question. How do you get a string off
>> stdin? Or an integer, or a boolean, for that matter? If I use this:
>>
>>    float MyFloat;
>>    string MyString;
>>    readf("%f",&MyFloat);
>>    writeln(MyFloat);
>>    readf("%s",&MyString);
>>    writeln(MyString);
>>
>> I get the float printed correctly, but when it asks to input the string,
>> whatever I input gets ignored - I can't reach the writeln part in any
>> way and I have to forcibly close the program. The same thing is with
>> ints - if I enter an int, it acts as if I didn't enter anything at all.
>> But floats work fine for some reason. Any thoughts about what is
>> happening there?
>>
>> I'm using openSUSE 11.4 and DMD 2.053.
>
> Reading from an input stream is sometimes confusing.
>
> Things to remember:
>
> - Use %s for any type unless there is reason not to
>
> - The line terminator from the previous entry is still in the input. (You
> may call readf(" ") to flush those white space characters. (I've just
> discovered this.))
>
> - string can hold any character including space and the line terminator.
> That's why pressing the Enter doesn't terminate reading a string.
>
> - Use a space character before any format specifier to ignore zero or
> more whitespace characters before the previous input: " %s".
>
> - To read a string (actually a line), use chomp(readln())
>
> - I don't know whether this is intended and I don't think that we should
> routinely use this: The EOF (Ctrl-D on Unix consoles, Ctrl-Z on Windows)
> terminates reading the string but strangely not the entire input.
>
> import std.stdio;
> import std.string;
>
> void main()
> {
>      float MyFloat;
>      readf(" %s",&MyFloat);
>      writeln(MyFloat);
>
>      readf(" ");
>
>      string MyString = chomp(readln());
>      writeln(MyString);
> }
>
> Ali

Remember that readf is reading characters, and converting them to types for you. I've just gotten in the habbit of reading in the string, and then parsing the string on my own. Readf doesn't grant me anything special that I can't do on my own. It's easy enough to do something like this:

[kai.meyer@kai-rhel6 sandbox]$ cat d_read.d
import std.stdio;
import std.string;
import std.conv;

void main()
{
    string[] buffer;
    int a;
    float b;
    string c;
    buffer = chomp(readln()).split(" ");
    a = to!(int)(buffer[0]);
    b = to!(float)(buffer[1]);
    c = buffer[2..$].join(" ");
    writef("Read in: '%d' '%f' '%s'\n", a, b, c);
}


If I type:
1 1.3 this is a string

On the command line after the execution, I get this back:
Read in: '1' '1.300000' 'this is a string'

It's not very stream-ish, because readln breaks on a new line. You could call the "buffer = chomp..." line again if (buffer.length == 0) before you attempt another conversion.

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