On Friday, 23 February 2018 at 17:56:29 UTC, Biocyberman wrote:
> Speaking on behalf of myself, after additional inputs from many excellent and respectful users in this 'forum'. I can say that, on the scale of 1 (least geeky) to 10 (most geeky), I would put forum.dlang.org to the level 8 of geekiness required to use the forum. It may be natural for long-time users, but for newcomers, it is very challenging.

I have to admit that I don't understand this. I don't think it would be possible for it to be simpler to use this forum. No registration needed, plain text messages, just click "Reply" and type in your message. Additional features would make it more complicated.

On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 10:01:44PM +0000, bachmeier via Digitalmars-d wrote:
> On Friday, 23 February 2018 at 17:56:29 UTC, Biocyberman wrote:
> > Speaking on behalf of myself, after additional inputs from many excellent and respectful users in this 'forum'. I can say that, on the scale of 1 (least geeky) to 10 (most geeky), I would put forum.dlang.org to the level 8 of geekiness required to use the forum. It may be natural for long-time users, but for newcomers, it is very challenging.

Hold it right there.

You're saying that it's a bad thing for a *programming language* forum to have a high geekiness rating?  Implying that *programmers* (y'know, ostensibly the target audience of said forum) are not geeky enough to know how to operate a geeky forum?

Whoa.  I think I need to sit down.


> I have to admit that I don't understand this. I don't think it would be possible for it to be simpler to use this forum. No registration needed, plain text messages, just click "Reply" and type in your message. Additional features would make it more complicated.

Well, obviously non-programmers (or should I say, "non-geeky programmers", whatever that might mean) have every right to be able to operate a forum dedicated for a programming language without any undue handicaps, so we have to make concessions on the level of "geekiness" required to participate in the programming language discussions that take place here, such that said discussions would be more accessible to said non-programmers (or "non-geeky" programmers, whoever they may be).

P.S. I think my geekiness-11 brain just blew several fuses and 2 transistors.  Please excuse me while I take a break to go off to the brain shop to replace them. Maybe I'll pick up an oxymoron compensation diode on the way as well.


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On Friday, February 23, 2018 18:56:29 Biocyberman via Digitalmars-d wrote:
> We may need a survey to have a good overview about users opinions.
>
> Speaking on behalf of myself, after additional inputs from many excellent and respectful users in this 'forum'. I can say that, on the scale of 1 (least geeky) to 10 (most geeky), I would put forum.dlang.org to the level 8 of geekiness required to use the forum. It may be natural for long-time users, but for newcomers, it is very challenging.

I don't understand this at all. The web interface is extremely simple. You're just reading and writing plain text like you would in an e-mail client that wasn't using html. There aren't complicated controls to learn. You just read and type. No, you can't format your text in fancy ways using a rich text interface, but that doesn't make it any harder to read and write text. And the interface really isn't all that different from your typical web forum, many of which don't provide any rich text editing capabilities beyond putting a piece of text in italics or bold.

I'm sorry if the web interface does not fit your vision of a what a web forum should look like, but I don't understand how you can argue that it's hard to use. It just lacks some of the fancier features that some other forum software has. You can choose to use it or not, but plenty of folks use the web interface with no problems, and they're not all hardcore programmers.

- Jonathan M Davis

On Friday, 23 February 2018 at 18:51:45 UTC, Biocyberman wrote:
> I think it has much to do with setting expectation right. Haven't used dfeed, I had trouble understanding dlang's forum but much less trouble with others.

Well... D users will reach a some critical mass, at some point, whereby things will certainly change, and the main discussions will then be going on elsewhere - cause this whole 'tied to NNTP' thing is kinda backwards, for 21st century.

Till then, we have what we have.

As for editing, I've always though a git like change log would be great, so you can edit as much as you want, and your editing history is there for all to see, so that it can't be abused.

Pictures would be so nice.

Code formatting would be really nice.

Theme's would be nice (I'm fed up with bright white backgrounds!)

Lot's of other stuff that most new comers would expect ...

But all that and more, will only come in some different forum .. not this one.

On 02/23/2018 06:25 AM, psychoticRabbit wrote:

> If there is one change that I would really like, it's dark theme

I've never needed myself but most browsers allow overriding themes.

Ali

On Saturday, 24 February 2018 at 01:53:48 UTC, Ali Çehreli wrote:
> On 02/23/2018 06:25 AM, psychoticRabbit wrote:
>
> > If there is one change that I would really like, it's dark
> theme
>
> I've never needed myself but most browsers allow overriding themes.
>
> Ali

yeah..I tried this a while back, but unfortunately it's effect is 'global', rather than per site.

i'd also like to see D conf videos go dark theme too ;-)

On Saturday, 24 February 2018 at 02:27:27 UTC, psychoticRabbit wrote:
> On Saturday, 24 February 2018 at 01:53:48 UTC, Ali Çehreli wrote:
>> On 02/23/2018 06:25 AM, psychoticRabbit wrote:
>>
>> > If there is one change that I would really like, it's dark
>> theme
>>
>> I've never needed myself but most browsers allow overriding themes.
>>
>> Ali
>
> yeah..I tried this a while back, but unfortunately it's effect is 'global', rather than per site.
>
> i'd also like to see D conf videos go dark theme too ;-)
There are Browser extensions gor this (e.g. https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/stylish-custom-themes-for/fjnbnpbmkenffdnngjfgmeleoegfcffe?hl=en)

On Friday, 23 February 2018 at 13:47:16 UTC, biocyberman wrote:
> 1. No post editing...

You should be grateful for this, because I hate systems like: Forums, Reddit and whatever, where people can edit/delete posts changing the context of things.

MattCoder.

On Saturday, 24 February 2018 at 04:13:15 UTC, Johannes Loher wrote:
> There are Browser extensions gor this (e.g. https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/stylish-custom-themes-for/fjnbnpbmkenffdnngjfgmeleoegfcffe?hl=en)

Hey. thanks for the tip.

though..I just refuse to use chrome ;-)

(in the 90's companies made their name for not being Microsoft. As Microsoft wanted to dominate the world. I wonder if that same situation exists now, except, now its not being Google).

anyways... a quick search and I discovered something similar for firefox.

so I might check that out.

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/stylish/

On Sat, Feb 24, 2018 at 04:18:29AM +0000, MattCoder via Digitalmars-d wrote:
> On Friday, 23 February 2018 at 13:47:16 UTC, biocyberman wrote:
> > 1. No post editing...
> 
> You should be grateful for this, because I hate systems like: Forums, Reddit and whatever, where people can edit/delete posts changing the context of things.
[...]

+1. In the old days, it was called "bait and switch". After people reply to an initial post, edit it and change it into something else completely. It was one of the trolls' favorite tools.


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