On Wednesday, 29 January 2014 at 10:13:44 UTC, Regan Heath wrote:
>> I will go and check in docs in most case if I have not encountered it before. Check each time for every new aliases. I'd hate to have this overhead.
>
> Huh?  Assuming you have a decent editor checking the docs should be as simple as pressing F1 on the unknown function.

It requires your mental context switching anyway.

> And, that's only assuming it's not immediately obvious what it's doing.  Are you telling me, that you would be confused by seeing...
>
> if (str.contains("hello"))

I won't be confused but I won't also be sure. For example, it may return boolean or inclusion count. `str` can be string of array of strings. With uniform ranges-based algorithms I can always expect consistent interpretation (or rant about inconsistent naming :)

> I seriously doubt that, and that's all I'm suggesting, adding aliases for things which are obvious, things which any beginner will expect to be there, and currently aren't there.

I don't buy into appealing to imaginary "any beginner" which has expectations identical to other "any beginner". My observations show quite the contrary - that those expectations are actually often different and incompatible and best way for a language is to force beginners to switch to expectations of the language.

On Wed, 29 Jan 2014 10:42:08 -0000, Dicebot <public@dicebot.lv> wrote:

> On Wednesday, 29 January 2014 at 10:13:44 UTC, Regan Heath wrote:
>>> I will go and check in docs in most case if I have not encountered it before. Check each time for every new aliases. I'd hate to have this overhead.
>>
>> Huh?  Assuming you have a decent editor checking the docs should be as simple as pressing F1 on the unknown function.
>
> It requires your mental context switching anyway.
>
>> And, that's only assuming it's not immediately obvious what it's doing.  Are you telling me, that you would be confused by seeing...
>>
>> if (str.contains("hello"))
>
> I won't be confused but I won't also be sure. For example, it may return boolean or inclusion count. `str` can be string of array of strings. With uniform ranges-based algorithms I can always expect consistent interpretation (or rant about inconsistent naming :)
>
>> I seriously doubt that, and that's all I'm suggesting, adding aliases for things which are obvious, things which any beginner will expect to be there, and currently aren't there.
>
> I don't buy into appealing to imaginary "any beginner" which has expectations identical to other "any beginner". My observations show quite the contrary - that those expectations are actually often different and incompatible and best way for a language is to force beginners to switch to expectations of the language.

*shrug* agree to disagree on all points.

R

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On Wednesday, 29 January 2014 at 15:57:30 UTC, Regan Heath wrote:
> *shrug* agree to disagree on all points.
>
> R

Peace!