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January 20, 2020 Modern convenience. Modeling power. Native efficiency. | ||||
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Let's see how it goes: https://strawpoll.com/f5z868c4 |
January 20, 2020 Re: Modern convenience. Modeling power. Native efficiency. | ||||
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Posted in reply to NX | On Monday, 20 January 2020 at 14:18:28 UTC, NX wrote:
> Let's see how it goes: https://strawpoll.com/f5z868c4
Cool. We should use this kind oft poll more often!
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January 20, 2020 Re: Modern convenience. Modeling power. Native efficiency. | ||||
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Posted in reply to Martin Tschierschke | On Mon, Jan 20, 2020 at 06:24:34PM +0000, Martin Tschierschke via Digitalmars-d wrote: > On Monday, 20 January 2020 at 14:18:28 UTC, NX wrote: > > Let's see how it goes: https://strawpoll.com/f5z868c4 > Cool. We should use this kind oft poll more often! I like how the current majority is the bikeshedding. :-D T -- It won't be covered in the book. The source code has to be useful for something, after all. -- Larry Wall |
January 20, 2020 Re: Modern convenience. Modeling power. Native efficiency. | ||||
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Posted in reply to H. S. Teoh | On Monday, 20 January 2020 at 18:35:30 UTC, H. S. Teoh wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 20, 2020 at 06:24:34PM +0000, Martin Tschierschke via Digitalmars-d wrote:
>> On Monday, 20 January 2020 at 14:18:28 UTC, NX wrote:
>> > Let's see how it goes: https://strawpoll.com/f5z868c4
>> Cool. We should use this kind oft poll more often!
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> I like how the current majority is the bikeshedding. :-D
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I don't even understand the analogy.
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January 20, 2020 Re: Modern convenience. Modeling power. Native efficiency. | ||||
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Posted in reply to IGotD- | On Mon, Jan 20, 2020 at 07:05:52PM +0000, IGotD- via Digitalmars-d wrote: > On Monday, 20 January 2020 at 18:35:30 UTC, H. S. Teoh wrote: > > On Mon, Jan 20, 2020 at 06:24:34PM +0000, Martin Tschierschke via Digitalmars-d wrote: > > > On Monday, 20 January 2020 at 14:18:28 UTC, NX wrote: > > > > Let's see how it goes: https://strawpoll.com/f5z868c4 > > > Cool. We should use this kind oft poll more often! > > > > I like how the current majority is the bikeshedding. :-D > > > > > > T > > I don't even understand the analogy. Here is the background: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_triviality http://bikeshed.com/ The exact quote "Once the bikeshed is up for painting, the rainbow won't suffice." is taken from one of Andrei's posts, where he expresses frustration at the frequent bikeshedding that goes on here over the most trivial of issues. What he meant is, no matter how trivial the issue is (what color should we paint the bikeshed, metaphorically speaking), people will debate it to the death, so even if you paint it in rainbow colors -- i.e., every possible color, ostensibly to satisfy everyone's preferences -- it still won't be enough to quell the complaints. Given how frequently this situation arises around here, it's kinda an in-joke to use that as our official motto, the joke being that that's what we D people like to do: argue over what color the bikeshed should be so much that even rainbow colors won't satisfy us. T -- Claiming that your operating system is the best in the world because more people use it is like saying McDonalds makes the best food in the world. -- Carl B. Constantine |
January 20, 2020 Re: Modern convenience. Modeling power. Native efficiency. | ||||
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Posted in reply to H. S. Teoh | On Monday, 20 January 2020 at 19:38:53 UTC, H. S. Teoh wrote:
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> Here is the background:
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> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_triviality
> http://bikeshed.com/
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> The exact quote "Once the bikeshed is up for painting, the rainbow won't suffice." is taken from one of Andrei's posts, where he expresses frustration at the frequent bikeshedding that goes on here over the most trivial of issues. What he meant is, no matter how trivial the issue is (what color should we paint the bikeshed, metaphorically speaking), people will debate it to the death, so even if you paint it in rainbow colors -- i.e., every possible color, ostensibly to satisfy everyone's preferences -- it still won't be enough to quell the complaints.
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> Given how frequently this situation arises around here, it's kinda an in-joke to use that as our official motto, the joke being that that's what we D people like to do: argue over what color the bikeshed should be so much that even rainbow colors won't satisfy us.
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Thank you for the explanation. I didn't expect a cynical slogan.
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January 20, 2020 Re: Modern convenience. Modeling power. Native efficiency. | ||||
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Posted in reply to IGotD- | On Monday, 20 January 2020 at 20:07:09 UTC, IGotD- wrote:
> Thank you for the explanation. I didn't expect a cynical slogan.
I read it as saying "I don't care"....
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January 21, 2020 Re: Modern convenience. Modeling power. Native efficiency. | ||||
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Posted in reply to Adam D. Ruppe | On Monday, 20 January 2020 at 20:11:40 UTC, Adam D. Ruppe wrote:
> On Monday, 20 January 2020 at 20:07:09 UTC, IGotD- wrote:
>> Thank you for the explanation. I didn't expect a cynical slogan.
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> I read it as saying "I don't care"....
Indeed.
"Modern convenience. Modeling power. Native efficiency" can be read as conservatism. It was the old slogan. The strong basement.
"Write fast, Read fast, Run fast". can be read as orthodoxy. It's bullshit made for branding but as it's official you think it's right.
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January 20, 2020 Re: Modern convenience. Modeling power. Native efficiency. | ||||
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Posted in reply to user1234 | On Tue, Jan 21, 2020 at 02:24:44AM +0000, user1234 via Digitalmars-d wrote: [...] > "Modern convenience. Modeling power. Native efficiency" can be read as conservatism. It was the old slogan. The strong basement. Actually, I read that as "the yawn-worthy slogan". > "Write fast, Read fast, Run fast". can be read as orthodoxy. It's bullshit made for branding but as it's official you think it's right. And this is the cringe-worthy slogan. Given the choice between yawn-worthy and cringe-worthy, "Once the bikeshed is up for painting, even the rainbow won't suffice" sounds like the obvious answer. T -- In theory, software is implemented according to the design that has been carefully worked out beforehand. In practice, design documents are written after the fact to describe the sorry mess that has gone on before. |
January 21, 2020 Re: Modern convenience. Modeling power. Native efficiency. | ||||
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Posted in reply to H. S. Teoh | On Tuesday, 21 January 2020 at 03:39:58 UTC, H. S. Teoh wrote:
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> Given the choice between yawn-worthy and cringe-worthy, "Once the bikeshed is up for painting, even the rainbow won't suffice" sounds like the obvious answer.
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Same here.
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