February 07, 2013 Re: Another opportunity for a major design win has presented itself | ||||
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Posted in reply to Walter Bright | On Thursday, 7 February 2013 at 21:11:18 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
> On 2/7/2013 1:01 PM, Maxim Fomin wrote:
>> I guess recent patches dedicated to the issue came at right time.
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> The timing is indeed fortuitous.
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> As for your comments about vagueness, yes, it is vague. The DLL support is clear, though, it either works or it doesn't. The other issues are a work in progress, and they understand that. We just have to make progress.
I know this is off-topic, but can/do companies purchase D support from you/Digital Mars ?
Nick
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February 08, 2013 Re: Another opportunity for a major design win has presented itself | ||||
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Posted in reply to Walter Bright | Am 07.02.2013 22:11, schrieb Walter Bright:
> On 2/7/2013 1:01 PM, Maxim Fomin wrote:
>> I guess recent patches dedicated to the issue came at right time.
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> The timing is indeed fortuitous.
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> As for your comments about vagueness, yes, it is vague. The DLL support is clear, though, it either works or it doesn't. The other issues are a work in progress, and they understand that. We just have to make progress.
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Well, 110 open pull requests on DMD, awaiting their merge, look like progress to me
And Phobos has 43! Lot's of progress
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February 08, 2013 Re: Another opportunity for a major design win has presented itself | ||||
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Posted in reply to Nick B | On 2/7/2013 1:19 PM, Nick B wrote:
> but can/do companies purchase D support from
> you/Digital Mars ?
As of this year, yes.
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February 08, 2013 Re: Another opportunity for a major design win has presented itself | ||||
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Posted in reply to Walter Bright | On Thursday, 7 February 2013 at 20:16:03 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
> No, I can't say who it is at this time. Sorry. But it is a huge opportunity for us.
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> To get the design win, we need to:
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> (a) get dynamic linking and loading to work
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> (b) improve language safety without degrading efficiency
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> (c) improve quality as always
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> Of course, these things benefit pretty much all D users anyway. Initially, (a) is the most important.
That is cool, but what is the target platform - Win/Lin, 32/64?
Oleg.
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February 08, 2013 Re: Another opportunity for a major design win has presented itself | ||||
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Posted in reply to Maxim Fomin | Am Thu, 07 Feb 2013 22:01:10 +0100 schrieb "Maxim Fomin" <maxim@maxim-fomin.ru>: > On Thursday, 7 February 2013 at 20:16:03 UTC, Walter Bright wrote: > > (a) get dynamic linking and loading to work > > Wasn't this realized before? By the way, last weeks there seems to be increasing dynamic linking & loading buzz like it was not an issue for ages. It is like the news: Things boil up, get covered for a week and disappear from public sight for a year. It has been an issue but people have probably arranged with static linking for now or not started to write a particular program in D. I remember I've tried to use structs with const members for a while for example, but arranged with making every field mutable. Now the topic showed up again after months. -- Marco |
February 08, 2013 Re: Another opportunity for a major design win has presented itself | ||||
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Posted in reply to Oleg Kuporosov | On 2/7/2013 10:36 PM, Oleg Kuporosov wrote:
> That is cool, but what is the target platform - Win/Lin, 32/64?
Initially, Linux. Once that is worked out, doing the others should be straightforward.
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February 08, 2013 Re: Another opportunity for a major design win has presented itself | ||||
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Posted in reply to Walter Bright | Am 08.02.2013 08:18, schrieb Walter Bright: > On 2/7/2013 10:36 PM, Oleg Kuporosov wrote: >> That is cool, but what is the target platform - Win/Lin, 32/64? > > Initially, Linux. Once that is worked out, doing the others should be > straightforward. > Well windows will be quite some work because DLLs are not really fully supported yet. Starting with these two issues: http://d.puremagic.com/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=3956 http://d.puremagic.com/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=6673 I will make bug reports for all the dll issues I found in the next few days. Kind Regards Benjamni Thaut |
February 08, 2013 Re: Another opportunity for a major design win has presented itself | ||||
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Posted in reply to Walter Bright | On 2013-02-07 21:16, Walter Bright wrote: > No, I can't say who it is at this time. Sorry. But it is a huge > opportunity for us. > > To get the design win, we need to: > > (a) get dynamic linking and loading to work We want to have this on all platforms but is there a platform that is prioritized for them? -- /Jacob Carlborg |
February 08, 2013 Re: Another opportunity for a major design win has presented itself | ||||
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Posted in reply to Maxim Fomin | On 2013-02-07 22:01, Maxim Fomin wrote: > On Thursday, 7 February 2013 at 20:16:03 UTC, Walter Bright wrote: >> No, I can't say who it is at this time. Sorry. But it is a huge >> opportunity for us. > > This is nice. > >> To get the design win, we need to: >> >> (a) get dynamic linking and loading to work > > Wasn't this realized before? By the way, last weeks there seems to be > increasing dynamic linking & loading buzz like it was not an issue for > ages. As far as I know and if nothing has changed in the recent days shared libraries to not work, at least not on Posix. -- /Jacob Carlborg |
February 08, 2013 Re: Another opportunity for a major design win has presented itself | ||||
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Posted in reply to Walter Bright | On 2013-02-07 21:16, Walter Bright wrote: > (a) get dynamic linking and loading to work I'm willing to help on this one, especially for Mac OS X. I have wanted this for quite a long time. -- /Jacob Carlborg |
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