Am 15.03.2013 15:29, schrieb Iain Buclaw:
> On 15 March 2013 14:06, Benjamin Thaut <code@benjamin-thaut.de
> <mailto:code@benjamin-thaut.de>> wrote:
>
>     Am 15.03.2013 14:20, schrieb Iain Buclaw:
>
>         On 15 March 2013 13:18, Iain Buclaw <ibuclaw@ubuntu.com
>         <mailto:ibuclaw@ubuntu.com>
>
>         <mailto:ibuclaw@ubuntu.com <mailto:ibuclaw@ubuntu.com>>> wrote:
>
>              On 15 March 2013 13:05, Benjamin Thaut
>         <code@benjamin-thaut.de <mailto:code@benjamin-thaut.de>
>              <mailto:code@benjamin-thaut.de
>         <mailto:code@benjamin-thaut.de>__>> wrote:
>
>                  Am 15.03.2013 13:26, schrieb Iain Buclaw:
>
>                      On 15 March 2013 12:01, Benjamin Thaut
>                      <code@benjamin-thaut.de
>         <mailto:code@benjamin-thaut.de> <mailto:code@benjamin-thaut.de
>         <mailto:code@benjamin-thaut.de>__>
>
>                      <mailto:code@benjamin-thaut.de
>         <mailto:code@benjamin-thaut.de>
>
>                      <mailto:code@benjamin-thaut.de
>         <mailto:code@benjamin-thaut.de>__>__>> wrote:
>
>
>                           Well I don't want to overwrite the existing
>         version of
>                      druntime and
>                           phobos. I want to be ablte to specifiy via a
>         compiler
>                      option to use
>                           a different version of them. In some projects
>         I use the
>                      original
>                           druntime + phobos and in other projects I use
>         my custom
>                      version.
>                           With dmd this is possible via a custom sc.ini
>         file. So
>                      is there a
>                           option to just remove druntime/phobos from
>                      LIBRARY_PATH? (and keep
>                           everything else)
>
>                           Kind Regards
>                           Benjamin Thaut
>
>
>                      You didn't seem to read my first message. :)
>
>                      On 15 March 2013 10:03, Iain Buclaw
>         <ibuclaw@ubuntu.com <mailto:ibuclaw@ubuntu.com>
>                      <mailto:ibuclaw@ubuntu.com <mailto:ibuclaw@ubuntu.com>>
>                      <mailto:ibuclaw@ubuntu.com
>         <mailto:ibuclaw@ubuntu.com> <mailto:ibuclaw@ubuntu.com
>         <mailto:ibuclaw@ubuntu.com>>>
>                      <mailto:ibuclaw@ubuntu.com
>         <mailto:ibuclaw@ubuntu.com> <mailto:ibuclaw@ubuntu.com
>         <mailto:ibuclaw@ubuntu.com>>
>                      <mailto:ibuclaw@ubuntu.com
>         <mailto:ibuclaw@ubuntu.com> <mailto:ibuclaw@ubuntu.com
>         <mailto:ibuclaw@ubuntu.com>>>>> wrote:
>
>                            The library is installed in /usr/lib,  which
>         is part
>                      of the
>                            LIBRARY_PATH.   The static library itself is a
>                      combination of
>                            druntime and phobos together, not separate at the
>                      moment.  To
>                            specify a different standard library, use
>         -defaultlib
>                      switch.
>
>
>
>                      --
>                      Iain Buclaw
>
>                      *(p < e ? p++ : p) = (c & 0x0f) + '0';
>
>
>                  I don't fully understand that statement.
>                  So the -defaultlib switch gives the location for the import
>                  files .di/.d and not for the actual library (.a) ?
>
>
>              No,  that's -I and -J
>
>
>
>         Use case:
>
>         gdc foo.d -defaultlib tango2
>
>
>         This will invoke the driver to add -ltango2 to the linker options,
>         instead of -lgphobos2
>
>         Regards
>         --
>         Iain Buclaw
>
>         *(p < e ? p++ : p) = (c & 0x0f) + '0';
>
>
>     Well but I'm not talking about the linker. If I do
>
>     import std.stdio;
>
>     I want to have a error message that std.stdio does not exist.
>
>     Kind Regards
>     Benjamin Thaut
>
>
>
> -nostdinc should do that.  Though the first error thrown would be that
> object.di cannot be found, which is correct behaviour,  you need to
> specify where the new object.di is using -I
>
>
> --
> Iain Buclaw
>
> *(p < e ? p++ : p) = (c & 0x0f) + '0';

Thats the problem. As soon as I specify -nostdinc a lot of other options get missing to. For example gdc no longer includes the contents of version(Windows) statements.
Is it possible that the phobos-ver-syms files have something to do with that?

Kind Regards
Benjamin Thaut

-- 
Kind Regards
Benjamin Thaut

On 15 March 2013 15:21, Benjamin Thaut <code@benjamin-thaut.de> wrote:

> Am 15.03.2013 15:29, schrieb Iain Buclaw:
>
>> On 15 March 2013 14:06, Benjamin Thaut <code@benjamin-thaut.de
>>
>> <mailto:code@benjamin-thaut.de**>> wrote:
>>
>>     Am 15.03.2013 14:20, schrieb Iain Buclaw:
>>
>>         On 15 March 2013 13:18, Iain Buclaw <ibuclaw@ubuntu.com
>>         <mailto:ibuclaw@ubuntu.com>
>>
>>         <mailto:ibuclaw@ubuntu.com <mailto:ibuclaw@ubuntu.com>>> wrote:
>>
>>              On 15 March 2013 13:05, Benjamin Thaut
>>         <code@benjamin-thaut.de <mailto:code@benjamin-thaut.de**>
>>              <mailto:code@benjamin-thaut.de
>>         <mailto:code@benjamin-thaut.de**>__>> wrote:
>>
>>                  Am 15.03.2013 13:26, schrieb Iain Buclaw:
>>
>>                      On 15 March 2013 12:01, Benjamin Thaut
>>                      <code@benjamin-thaut.de
>>         <mailto:code@benjamin-thaut.de**> <mailto:code@benjamin-thaut.de
>>         <mailto:code@benjamin-thaut.de**>__>
>>
>>                      <mailto:code@benjamin-thaut.de
>>         <mailto:code@benjamin-thaut.de**>
>>
>>                      <mailto:code@benjamin-thaut.de
>>         <mailto:code@benjamin-thaut.de**>__>__>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>                           Well I don't want to overwrite the existing
>>         version of
>>                      druntime and
>>                           phobos. I want to be ablte to specifiy via a
>>         compiler
>>                      option to use
>>                           a different version of them. In some projects
>>         I use the
>>                      original
>>                           druntime + phobos and in other projects I use
>>         my custom
>>                      version.
>>                           With dmd this is possible via a custom sc.ini
>>         file. So
>>                      is there a
>>                           option to just remove druntime/phobos from
>>                      LIBRARY_PATH? (and keep
>>                           everything else)
>>
>>                           Kind Regards
>>                           Benjamin Thaut
>>
>>
>>                      You didn't seem to read my first message. :)
>>
>>                      On 15 March 2013 10:03, Iain Buclaw
>>         <ibuclaw@ubuntu.com <mailto:ibuclaw@ubuntu.com>
>>                      <mailto:ibuclaw@ubuntu.com <mailto:
>> ibuclaw@ubuntu.com>>
>>                      <mailto:ibuclaw@ubuntu.com
>>         <mailto:ibuclaw@ubuntu.com> <mailto:ibuclaw@ubuntu.com
>>         <mailto:ibuclaw@ubuntu.com>>>
>>                      <mailto:ibuclaw@ubuntu.com
>>         <mailto:ibuclaw@ubuntu.com> <mailto:ibuclaw@ubuntu.com
>>         <mailto:ibuclaw@ubuntu.com>>
>>                      <mailto:ibuclaw@ubuntu.com
>>         <mailto:ibuclaw@ubuntu.com> <mailto:ibuclaw@ubuntu.com
>>         <mailto:ibuclaw@ubuntu.com>>>>**> wrote:
>>
>>                            The library is installed in /usr/lib,  which
>>         is part
>>                      of the
>>                            LIBRARY_PATH.   The static library itself is a
>>                      combination of
>>                            druntime and phobos together, not separate at
>> the
>>                      moment.  To
>>                            specify a different standard library, use
>>         -defaultlib
>>                      switch.
>>
>>
>>
>>                      --
>>                      Iain Buclaw
>>
>>                      *(p < e ? p++ : p) = (c & 0x0f) + '0';
>>
>>
>>                  I don't fully understand that statement.
>>                  So the -defaultlib switch gives the location for the
>> import
>>                  files .di/.d and not for the actual library (.a) ?
>>
>>
>>              No,  that's -I and -J
>>
>>
>>
>>         Use case:
>>
>>         gdc foo.d -defaultlib tango2
>>
>>
>>         This will invoke the driver to add -ltango2 to the linker options,
>>         instead of -lgphobos2
>>
>>         Regards
>>         --
>>         Iain Buclaw
>>
>>         *(p < e ? p++ : p) = (c & 0x0f) + '0';
>>
>>
>>     Well but I'm not talking about the linker. If I do
>>
>>     import std.stdio;
>>
>>     I want to have a error message that std.stdio does not exist.
>>
>>     Kind Regards
>>     Benjamin Thaut
>>
>>
>>
>> -nostdinc should do that.  Though the first error thrown would be that object.di cannot be found, which is correct behaviour,  you need to specify where the new object.di is using -I
>>
>>
>> --
>> Iain Buclaw
>>
>> *(p < e ? p++ : p) = (c & 0x0f) + '0';
>>
>
> Thats the problem. As soon as I specify -nostdinc a lot of other options
> get missing to. For example gdc no longer includes the contents of
> version(Windows) statements.
> Is it possible that the phobos-ver-syms files have something to do with
> that?
>
>
That shouldn't be the case if you are using a recent development version (see patch-versym-os-4.8.x where there is a builtin define for Windows)

-- 
Iain Buclaw

*(p < e ? p++ : p) = (c & 0x0f) + '0';

Am 15.03.2013 17:06, schrieb Iain Buclaw:
> On 15 March 2013 15:21, Benjamin Thaut <code@benjamin-thaut.de
> <mailto:code@benjamin-thaut.de>> wrote:
>
>     Am 15.03.2013 15:29, schrieb Iain Buclaw:
>
>         On 15 March 2013 14:06, Benjamin Thaut <code@benjamin-thaut.de
>         <mailto:code@benjamin-thaut.de>
>
>         <mailto:code@benjamin-thaut.de
>         <mailto:code@benjamin-thaut.de>__>> wrote:
>
>              Am 15.03.2013 14:20, schrieb Iain Buclaw:
>
>                  On 15 March 2013 13:18, Iain Buclaw <ibuclaw@ubuntu.com
>         <mailto:ibuclaw@ubuntu.com>
>                  <mailto:ibuclaw@ubuntu.com <mailto:ibuclaw@ubuntu.com>>
>
>                  <mailto:ibuclaw@ubuntu.com <mailto:ibuclaw@ubuntu.com>
>         <mailto:ibuclaw@ubuntu.com <mailto:ibuclaw@ubuntu.com>>>> wrote:
>
>                       On 15 March 2013 13:05, Benjamin Thaut
>                  <code@benjamin-thaut.de <mailto:code@benjamin-thaut.de>
>         <mailto:code@benjamin-thaut.de <mailto:code@benjamin-thaut.de>__>
>                       <mailto:code@benjamin-thaut.de
>         <mailto:code@benjamin-thaut.de>
>                  <mailto:code@benjamin-thaut.de
>         <mailto:code@benjamin-thaut.de>__>__>> wrote:
>
>                           Am 15.03.2013 13:26, schrieb Iain Buclaw:
>
>                               On 15 March 2013 12:01, Benjamin Thaut
>                               <code@benjamin-thaut.de
>         <mailto:code@benjamin-thaut.de>
>                  <mailto:code@benjamin-thaut.de
>         <mailto:code@benjamin-thaut.de>__>
>         <mailto:code@benjamin-thaut.de <mailto:code@benjamin-thaut.de>
>                  <mailto:code@benjamin-thaut.de
>         <mailto:code@benjamin-thaut.de>__>__>
>
>                               <mailto:code@benjamin-thaut.de
>         <mailto:code@benjamin-thaut.de>
>                  <mailto:code@benjamin-thaut.de
>         <mailto:code@benjamin-thaut.de>__>
>
>                               <mailto:code@benjamin-thaut.de
>         <mailto:code@benjamin-thaut.de>
>                  <mailto:code@benjamin-thaut.de
>         <mailto:code@benjamin-thaut.de>__>__>__>> wrote:
>
>
>                                    Well I don't want to overwrite the
>         existing
>                  version of
>                               druntime and
>                                    phobos. I want to be ablte to
>         specifiy via a
>                  compiler
>                               option to use
>                                    a different version of them. In some
>         projects
>                  I use the
>                               original
>                                    druntime + phobos and in other
>         projects I use
>                  my custom
>                               version.
>                                    With dmd this is possible via a
>         custom sc.ini
>                  file. So
>                               is there a
>                                    option to just remove druntime/phobos
>         from
>                               LIBRARY_PATH? (and keep
>                                    everything else)
>
>                                    Kind Regards
>                                    Benjamin Thaut
>
>
>                               You didn't seem to read my first message. :)
>
>                               On 15 March 2013 10:03, Iain Buclaw
>                  <ibuclaw@ubuntu.com <mailto:ibuclaw@ubuntu.com>
>         <mailto:ibuclaw@ubuntu.com <mailto:ibuclaw@ubuntu.com>>
>                               <mailto:ibuclaw@ubuntu.com
>         <mailto:ibuclaw@ubuntu.com> <mailto:ibuclaw@ubuntu.com
>         <mailto:ibuclaw@ubuntu.com>>>
>                               <mailto:ibuclaw@ubuntu.com
>         <mailto:ibuclaw@ubuntu.com>
>                  <mailto:ibuclaw@ubuntu.com <mailto:ibuclaw@ubuntu.com>>
>         <mailto:ibuclaw@ubuntu.com <mailto:ibuclaw@ubuntu.com>
>                  <mailto:ibuclaw@ubuntu.com <mailto:ibuclaw@ubuntu.com>>>>
>                               <mailto:ibuclaw@ubuntu.com
>         <mailto:ibuclaw@ubuntu.com>
>                  <mailto:ibuclaw@ubuntu.com <mailto:ibuclaw@ubuntu.com>>
>         <mailto:ibuclaw@ubuntu.com <mailto:ibuclaw@ubuntu.com>
>                  <mailto:ibuclaw@ubuntu.com <mailto:ibuclaw@ubuntu.com>>>
>                               <mailto:ibuclaw@ubuntu.com
>         <mailto:ibuclaw@ubuntu.com>
>                  <mailto:ibuclaw@ubuntu.com <mailto:ibuclaw@ubuntu.com>>
>         <mailto:ibuclaw@ubuntu.com <mailto:ibuclaw@ubuntu.com>
>                  <mailto:ibuclaw@ubuntu.com
>         <mailto:ibuclaw@ubuntu.com>>>>>__> wrote:
>
>                                     The library is installed in
>         /usr/lib,  which
>                  is part
>                               of the
>                                     LIBRARY_PATH.   The static library
>         itself is a
>                               combination of
>                                     druntime and phobos together, not
>         separate at the
>                               moment.  To
>                                     specify a different standard
>         library, use
>                  -defaultlib
>                               switch.
>
>
>
>                               --
>                               Iain Buclaw
>
>                               *(p < e ? p++ : p) = (c & 0x0f) + '0';
>
>
>                           I don't fully understand that statement.
>                           So the -defaultlib switch gives the location
>         for the import
>                           files .di/.d and not for the actual library (.a) ?
>
>
>                       No,  that's -I and -J
>
>
>
>                  Use case:
>
>                  gdc foo.d -defaultlib tango2
>
>
>                  This will invoke the driver to add -ltango2 to the
>         linker options,
>                  instead of -lgphobos2
>
>                  Regards
>                  --
>                  Iain Buclaw
>
>                  *(p < e ? p++ : p) = (c & 0x0f) + '0';
>
>
>              Well but I'm not talking about the linker. If I do
>
>              import std.stdio;
>
>              I want to have a error message that std.stdio does not exist.
>
>              Kind Regards
>              Benjamin Thaut
>
>
>
>         -nostdinc should do that.  Though the first error thrown would
>         be that
>         object.di cannot be found, which is correct behaviour,  you need to
>         specify where the new object.di is using -I
>
>
>         --
>         Iain Buclaw
>
>         *(p < e ? p++ : p) = (c & 0x0f) + '0';
>
>
>     Thats the problem. As soon as I specify -nostdinc a lot of other
>     options get missing to. For example gdc no longer includes the
>     contents of version(Windows) statements.
>     Is it possible that the phobos-ver-syms files have something to do
>     with that?
>
>
> That shouldn't be the case if you are using a recent development version
> (see patch-versym-os-4.8.x where there is a builtin define for Windows)
>
> --
> Iain Buclaw
>
> *(p < e ? p++ : p) = (c & 0x0f) + '0';

Well mingw-gdc is quite a bit behind.

Kind Regards
Benjamin Thaut

On 3/15/2013 11:42 AM, Benjamin Thaut wrote:
> Well mingw-gdc is quite a bit behind.

I'm working on that.

C:\MinGW\msys\1.0>/crossdev/gdc/stage/bin/gdc -v
Using built-in specs.
COLLECT_GCC=/crossdev/gdc/stage/bin/gdc
COLLECT_LTO_WRAPPER=c:/crossdev/gdc/stage/bin/../libexec/gcc/i686-pc-mingw32/4.8.0/lto-wrapper.exe
Target: i686-pc-mingw32
Configured with: ../configure --prefix=/crossdev/gdc/stage --with-gmp=/crossdev/gdc/deps/gmp --with-mpfr=/crossdev/gdc/deps/mpfr --with-mpc=/crossdev/gdc/deps/mpc --with-cloog=/crossdev/gdc/deps/cloog/ --with-isl=/crossdev/gdc/deps/isl --disable-bootstrap --enable-languages=c,c++,d,lto
Thread model: win32
gcc version 4.8.0 20130303 (experimental) (GCC)


But in the meantime just modify the code directly.  You can find it in d-lang.cc look for

VersionCondition::addPredefinedGlobalIdent ("GNU");

and add one for Windows.

Am 15.03.2013 20:00, schrieb Daniel Green:
> On 3/15/2013 11:42 AM, Benjamin Thaut wrote:
>> Well mingw-gdc is quite a bit behind.
>
> I'm working on that.
>
> C:\MinGW\msys\1.0>/crossdev/gdc/stage/bin/gdc -v
> Using built-in specs.
> COLLECT_GCC=/crossdev/gdc/stage/bin/gdc
> COLLECT_LTO_WRAPPER=c:/crossdev/gdc/stage/bin/../libexec/gcc/i686-pc-mingw32/4.8.0/lto-wrapper.exe
>
> Target: i686-pc-mingw32
> Configured with: ../configure --prefix=/crossdev/gdc/stage
> --with-gmp=/crossdev/gdc/deps/gmp --with-mpfr=/crossdev/gdc/deps/mpfr
> --with-mpc=/crossdev/gdc/deps/mpc --with-cloog=/crossdev/gdc/deps/cloog/
> --with-isl=/crossdev/gdc/deps/isl --disable-bootstrap
> --enable-languages=c,c++,d,lto
> Thread model: win32
> gcc version 4.8.0 20130303 (experimental) (GCC)
>
>
> But in the meantime just modify the code directly.  You can find it in
> d-lang.cc look for
>
> VersionCondition::addPredefinedGlobalIdent ("GNU");
>
> and add one for Windows.
>

Awesome. Thank you very much. It is really nice to hear that you are working on a 4.8.0 mingw port.

Am Fri, 15 Mar 2013 14:00:23 -0500
schrieb Daniel Green <venix1@gmail.com>:

> On 3/15/2013 11:42 AM, Benjamin Thaut wrote:
> > Well mingw-gdc is quite a bit behind.
> 
> I'm working on that.
> 
> C:\MinGW\msys\1.0>/crossdev/gdc/stage/bin/gdc -v
> Using built-in specs.
> COLLECT_GCC=/crossdev/gdc/stage/bin/gdc
> COLLECT_LTO_WRAPPER=c:/crossdev/gdc/stage/bin/../libexec/gcc/i686-pc-mingw32/4.8.0/lto-wrapper.exe
> Target: i686-pc-mingw32
> Configured with: ../configure --prefix=/crossdev/gdc/stage
> --with-gmp=/crossdev/gdc/deps/gmp --with-mpfr=/crossdev/gdc/deps/mpfr
> --with-mpc=/crossdev/gdc/deps/mpc
> --with-cloog=/crossdev/gdc/deps/cloog/
> --with-isl=/crossdev/gdc/deps/isl --disable-bootstrap
> --enable-languages=c,c++,d,lto Thread model: win32
> gcc version 4.8.0 20130303 (experimental) (GCC)
> 
> 
> But in the meantime just modify the code directly.  You can find it in d-lang.cc look for
> 
> VersionCondition::addPredefinedGlobalIdent ("GNU");
> 
> and add one for Windows.
> 

Great! Is there any change gdc changes could be upstreamed to the official gdc repo when this is finished? Then I could also backport those changes to the gdc-4.7 branch.