May 13, 2013 Re: DConf 2013 Day 1 Talk 2: Copy and Move Semantics in D by Ali Cehreli | ||||
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Posted in reply to Andrei Alexandrescu | On Friday, 10 May 2013 at 12:08:10 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
> Enjoy!
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> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPr2UspS0fE
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> Andrei
Very good presentation. Thank you Ali.
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May 13, 2013 Re: DConf 2013 Day 1 Talk 2: Copy and Move Semantics in D by Ali Cehreli | ||||
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Posted in reply to Andrej Mitrovic | On Mon, 13 May 2013 17:43:01 -0400, Andrej Mitrovic <andrej.mitrovich@gmail.com> wrote: > Anyway I wish this PR stunt was announce *beforehand*. BTW, for comparison: Dconf 2007: 8/25-8/27 2007 Videos posted: 7/10/2008 http://forum.dlang.org/post/g54ptt$2so2$1@digitalmars.com Reminds me of Lewis CK's "Everything is amazing, and nobody is happy" http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x8m5d0_everything-is-amazing-and-nobody-i_fun#.UZFpsBM199c -Steve |
May 14, 2013 Re: DConf 2013 Day 1 Talk 2: Copy and Move Semantics in D by Ali Cehreli | ||||
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Posted in reply to Steven Schveighoffer | On 05/13/2013 03:41 PM, Steven Schveighoffer wrote: > Dconf 2007: 8/25-8/27 2007 > > Videos posted: 7/10/2008 > http://forum.dlang.org/post/g54ptt$2so2$1@digitalmars.com I found the videos here: http://www.youtube.com/user/braddr1 Ali |
May 14, 2013 Re: DConf 2013 Day 1 Talk 2: Copy and Move Semantics in D by Ali Cehreli | ||||
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Posted in reply to Andrei Alexandrescu | On Friday, 10 May 2013 at 12:08:10 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
> Enjoy!
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> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPr2UspS0fE
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> Andrei
I just finished watching.
Very, very good presentation.
A lot of interesting stuff in here.
Also those "here comes the correct answer" were really funny, made me laugh in real ;)
Thank you very much Ali for doing this presentation.
Those 50 minutes were totally worth it.
Best regards
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May 14, 2013 Re: DConf 2013 Day 1 Talk 2: Copy and Move Semantics in D by Ali Cehreli | ||||
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Posted in reply to Walter Bright | On Monday, 13 May 2013 at 17:18:34 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
> On 5/13/2013 9:04 AM, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:
>> Also keep in mind, that you can simply ignore the postings for a few weeks, and
>> then all will be available at once. This is like waiting for the season to come
>> out on dvd or netflix :)
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> Yeah, I'll often record a whole season on the dvr, then watch it in a marathon session!
I do the same, but I guess in case of D, we are not the one to convince as we already are.
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May 15, 2013 Re: DConf 2013 Day 1 Talk 2: Copy and Move Semantics in D by Ali Cehreli | ||||
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Posted in reply to Andrei Alexandrescu | Andrei Alexandrescu, el 11 de May a las 20:22 me escribiste: > On 5/11/13 7:39 PM, Nick Sabalausky wrote: > >Furthermore, my whole point was nothing more than to merely suggest that *maybe* the delay should simply be somewhat less, *not* a demand or expectation, and *not* even a suggestion that they should all be released as soon as is technically feasable. > > Sure - let's take a quick poll on what would be the best release schedule. As far as I'm concerned, I'd prefer if all videos are released as soon as possible. AFAIK no other conference that publishes videos introduces an artificial delay when releasing videos and slides, just for "PR" reasons. I even think is anti-PR to do such a thing (I can see how making one announcement each couple of days in reddit/etc. can help keep D in the spot but I don't see any reason why not to upload the actual stuff and link it in the conference website). People that is actively looking for the stuff should be able to find it. People that doesn't know about the conference, should get a notification about a new video once in a while. Still, 10 months seems crazy. As somebody mentioned before, 1 month seems much more reasonable, 2 at most. -- Leandro Lucarella (AKA luca) http://llucax.com.ar/ |
May 15, 2013 Re: DConf 2013 Day 1 Talk 2: Copy and Move Semantics in D by Ali Cehreli | ||||
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Posted in reply to Walter Bright | Walter Bright, el 12 de May a las 11:42 me escribiste: > On 5/12/2013 3:49 AM, John Colvin wrote: > >As frustrating as it is for non-attending enthusiasts like myself, I'd say stick with the current schedule. The marketing checks out. > > So far, it's been a big success on Reddit doing it this way. I've also seen a number of comments on Reddit and Hacker News to the effect of people showing a renewed interest in D. > > There's also the issue Andrei brought up about the speakers having worked hard on their presentations, and they each deserve their day in the sun. Spacing them out does that. As a speaker, as I said before, what would make me happy is to make my talk available as soon as possible. So, at least in my personal case, the "day in the sun" argument doesn't apply :) -- Leandro Lucarella (AKA luca) http://llucax.com.ar/ |
May 15, 2013 Re: DConf 2013 Day 1 Talk 2: Copy and Move Semantics in D by Ali Cehreli | ||||
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Posted in reply to Leandro Lucarella | On 5/14/13 7:24 PM, Leandro Lucarella wrote: > Andrei Alexandrescu, el 11 de May a las 20:22 me escribiste: >> On 5/11/13 7:39 PM, Nick Sabalausky wrote: >>> Furthermore, my whole point was nothing more than to merely suggest >>> that *maybe* the delay should simply be somewhat less, *not* a demand >>> or expectation, and *not* even a suggestion that they should all be >>> released as soon as is technically feasable. >> >> Sure - let's take a quick poll on what would be the best release schedule. > > As far as I'm concerned, I'd prefer if all videos are released as soon > as possible. AFAIK no other conference that publishes videos introduces > an artificial delay when releasing videos and slides, just for "PR" > reasons. With all due respect I'd dare ask how versed you are in organizing conferences, PR campaigns, or anything related. Releasing video recordings with a delay has been the policy of all recent conferences I've participated or organized. > I even think is anti-PR to do such a thing (I can see how > making one announcement each couple of days in reddit/etc. can help keep > D in the spot but I don't see any reason why not to upload the actual > stuff and link it in the conference website). There is evidence indicating we are doing the right thing. On what basis do you believe it's negative for PR? > People that is actively looking for the stuff should be able to find it. > People that doesn't know about the conference, should get a notification > about a new video once in a while. People who are actively looking for the stuff will sure find it forever - just with a little delay at start, which I have explained why I find entirely reasonable. > Still, 10 months seems crazy. As > somebody mentioned before, 1 month seems much more reasonable, 2 at most. With three a week we'll be done in five more weeks. Please explain why you find that unreasonable. Andrei |
May 15, 2013 Re: DConf 2013 Day 1 Talk 2: Copy and Move Semantics in D by Ali Cehreli | ||||
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Posted in reply to Leandro Lucarella | On 5/14/13 7:29 PM, Leandro Lucarella wrote:
> Walter Bright, el 12 de May a las 11:42 me escribiste:
>> On 5/12/2013 3:49 AM, John Colvin wrote:
>>> As frustrating as it is for non-attending enthusiasts like myself, I'd say stick
>>> with the current schedule. The marketing checks out.
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>> So far, it's been a big success on Reddit doing it this way. I've
>> also seen a number of comments on Reddit and Hacker News to the
>> effect of people showing a renewed interest in D.
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>> There's also the issue Andrei brought up about the speakers having
>> worked hard on their presentations, and they each deserve their day
>> in the sun. Spacing them out does that.
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> As a speaker, as I said before, what would make me happy is to make my
> talk available as soon as possible. So, at least in my personal case,
> the "day in the sun" argument doesn't apply :)
My aim here is to do the best for the D community.
Andrei
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May 15, 2013 Re: DConf 2013 Day 1 Talk 2: Copy and Move Semantics in D by Ali Cehreli | ||||
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Posted in reply to Andrei Alexandrescu | On Tue, 14 May 2013 20:26:36 -0400, Andrei Alexandrescu <SeeWebsiteForEmail@erdani.org> wrote: > On 5/14/13 7:24 PM, Leandro Lucarella wrote: >> Still, 10 months seems crazy. As >> somebody mentioned before, 1 month seems much more reasonable, 2 at most. > > With three a week we'll be done in five more weeks. Please explain why you find that unreasonable. I think either misunderstanding or typo here. The original release schedule was to happen over 10 WEEKS not 10 months (2 per week, for 20 videos, that's 10 weeks or roughly 2.5 months). -Steve |
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