Thread overview
dupping to allow vector operation?
Oct 09, 2014
bearophile
Oct 09, 2014
John Colvin
Oct 10, 2014
John Colvin
Oct 09, 2014
Marc Schütz
Oct 09, 2014
bearophile
October 09, 2014
Observe:

void main() {
     int[3] a1 = [1, 3, 6];
     int[]  a2 = a1[] * 3;       // line 3, Error
     int[]  a3 = a1.dup[] *= 3;  // line 4, OK?
     int[]  a4 = (a1[] * 3).dup; // line 5, Error
}


Currently the operation in line 4 is accepted:

test.d(3,17): Error: array operation a1[] * 3 without destination memory not allowed
test.d(5,18): Error: array operation a1[] * 3 without destination memory not allowed

Is it a good idea to support something like line 5?

Bye,
bearophile
October 09, 2014
On Thursday, 9 October 2014 at 11:29:14 UTC, bearophile wrote:
> Observe:
>
> void main() {
>      int[3] a1 = [1, 3, 6];
>      int[]  a2 = a1[] * 3;       // line 3, Error
>      int[]  a3 = a1.dup[] *= 3;  // line 4, OK?
>      int[]  a4 = (a1[] * 3).dup; // line 5, Error
> }
>
>
> Currently the operation in line 4 is accepted:
>
> test.d(3,17): Error: array operation a1[] * 3 without destination memory not allowed
> test.d(5,18): Error: array operation a1[] * 3 without destination memory not allowed
>
> Is it a good idea to support something like line 5?
>
> Bye,
> bearophile

Why not? Looks fine to me, you've explicitly allocated some new memory for the result to sit in, the lack of which is the motivation for lines 3 an 5 being errors.
October 09, 2014
On Thursday, 9 October 2014 at 11:29:14 UTC, bearophile wrote:
> Observe:
>
> void main() {
>      int[3] a1 = [1, 3, 6];
>      int[]  a2 = a1[] * 3;       // line 3, Error
>      int[]  a3 = a1.dup[] *= 3;  // line 4, OK?
>      int[]  a4 = (a1[] * 3).dup; // line 5, Error
> }
>
>
> Currently the operation in line 4 is accepted:
>
> test.d(3,17): Error: array operation a1[] * 3 without destination memory not allowed
> test.d(5,18): Error: array operation a1[] * 3 without destination memory not allowed
>
> Is it a good idea to support something like line 5?

It's equivalent to:

    int[] tmp = a1[] * 3;
    int[] a4 = tmp.dup;

The first part is of course identical to line 3, so this should be an error, too. Normal rules for evaluation order require `a1[] * 3` to be evaluated before `(...).dup`, so where is it supposed to store the intermediate result?
October 09, 2014
Marc Schütz:

> It's equivalent to:
>
>     int[] tmp = a1[] * 3;
>     int[] a4 = tmp.dup;
>
> The first part is of course identical to line 3, so this should be an error, too. Normal rules for evaluation order require `a1[] * 3` to be evaluated before `(...).dup`, so where is it supposed to store the intermediate result?

So do we need a new different syntax to do it? :-)

Bye,
bearophile
October 10, 2014
On Thursday, 9 October 2014 at 18:01:27 UTC, John Colvin wrote:
> On Thursday, 9 October 2014 at 11:29:14 UTC, bearophile wrote:
>> Observe:
>>
>> void main() {
>>     int[3] a1 = [1, 3, 6];
>>     int[]  a2 = a1[] * 3;       // line 3, Error
>>     int[]  a3 = a1.dup[] *= 3;  // line 4, OK?
>>     int[]  a4 = (a1[] * 3).dup; // line 5, Error
>> }
>>
>>
>> Currently the operation in line 4 is accepted:
>>
>> test.d(3,17): Error: array operation a1[] * 3 without destination memory not allowed
>> test.d(5,18): Error: array operation a1[] * 3 without destination memory not allowed
>>
>> Is it a good idea to support something like line 5?
>>
>> Bye,
>> bearophile
>
> Why not? Looks fine to me, you've explicitly allocated some new memory for the result to sit in, the lack of which is the motivation for lines 3 an 5 being errors.

To clarify: 4 is good, 3 and 5 are not.