On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 06:52:12PM +0000, Brad Anderson wrote:
> I'd just like to point out for everyone in this conversation that you can vote for issues in bugzilla. The vote tally is a much easier way for the people who work on the compiler to quantify what the community wants from D.

On that note, could we pretty please remove the restriction of 10 votes per person? It makes it less useful because I keep having to think twice about whether to vote or not, how many votes I have left, and whether the current bug is more important than another so that I can transfer the vote over, etc.. In the end, I just don't bother voting at all.

So, can we please remove that restriction? I don't know if it was introduced to prevent abuse, but as I see it, unless someone is out to game the system (in which case we have bigger problems than just wrong tally counts), it's not necessary to try to prevent abuse because a single user can vote for the same bug only once. So it's not like you can easily inflate the votes anyway.


> I don't know how much the major compiler devs use the votes for making decisions but at least it'd less ephemeral than these forum posts that will be gone and forgotten in a day or two.
> 
> Here's the issue list sorted by votes:
> 
> https://d.puremagic.com/issues/buglist.cgi?bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&query_format=advanced&votes=1&order=votes

I think this list will be much more meaningful if the voting restriction was removed.


T

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If the comments and the code disagree, it's likely that *both* are wrong. -- Christopher

On Tuesday, 25 February 2014 at 21:32:26 UTC, H. S. Teoh wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 06:52:12PM +0000, Brad Anderson wrote:
>> I'd just like to point out for everyone in this conversation that
>> you can vote for issues in bugzilla. The vote tally is a much easier
>> way for the people who work on the compiler to quantify what the
>> community wants from D.
>
> On that note, could we pretty please remove the restriction of 10 votes
> per person? It makes it less useful because I keep having to think twice
> about whether to vote or not, how many votes I have left, and whether
> the current bug is more important than another so that I can transfer
> the vote over, etc.. In the end, I just don't bother voting at all.
>

I do find myself agonizing over what vote to drop whenever I hit a new issue I want to add a vote for so I'm in favor of this too.

"Brad Anderson"  wrote in message news:gzknvsxmtkqoukkdkfjd@forum.dlang.org...

> I do find myself agonizing over what vote to drop whenever I hit a new issue I want to add a vote for so I'm in favor of this too.

That's the point.  Currently a vote means "this issue is in my top 10" or at least "this bug annoyed me enough I made a bugzilla account" but with many votes each it simply means "I have encountered this bug"/"I have seen this bug report".  The more votes per user the closer they get to a meaningless "+1".

Then again, I never look at votes when deciding which issues to fix, so changing it won't really affect me either way. 

On Wednesday, 26 February 2014 at 12:19:32 UTC, Daniel Murphy wrote:
> "Brad Anderson"  wrote in message news:gzknvsxmtkqoukkdkfjd@forum.dlang.org...
>
>> I do find myself agonizing over what vote to drop whenever I hit a new issue I want to add a vote for so I'm in favor of this too.
>
> That's the point.  Currently a vote means "this issue is in my top 10" or at least "this bug annoyed me enough I made a bugzilla account" but with many votes each it simply means "I have encountered this bug"/"I have seen this bug report".  The more votes per user the closer they get to a meaningless "+1".
>
> Then again, I never look at votes when deciding which issues to fix, so changing it won't really affect me either way.

Statistically speaking, making a vote more meaningless and increasing the total quantity of votes will actually increase the accuracy of the statistic. When looking at a single person, a 10 ten does hold more value than a top 50 or top 100. But when looking at the aggregate of all votes, more votes is better.

On Wednesday, 26 February 2014 at 14:59:53 UTC, Tofu Ninja wrote:
> a 10 ten does hold more value than a top 50 or top 100. But
top 10*

On Wednesday, 26 February 2014 at 12:19:32 UTC, Daniel Murphy wrote:
> it simply means "I have encountered this bug"/"I have seen this bug report".

But it is also quite useful statistis on its own - how often specific issue is encountered by random D user.