Hi,

since game development discussions tend to come up here, Sony is making their C# tools open source, used in games by Naughty Dog, Guerrilla Games and others.

https://github.com/SonyWWS/ATF

One good example how GC based languages do not hinder game development and are gaining place alongside C++ as part of the development process.

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Paulo

Am 11.03.2014 10:38, schrieb Paulo Pinto:
> Hi,
>
> since game development discussions tend to come up here, Sony is
> making their C# tools open source, used in games by Naughty Dog,
> Guerrilla Games and others.
>
> https://github.com/SonyWWS/ATF
>
> One good example how GC based languages do not hinder game
> development and are gaining place alongside C++ as part of the
> development process.

still sony works on its own llvm/clang based c++ compiler for PS4 :)

On Tuesday, 11 March 2014 at 09:38:31 UTC, Paulo Pinto wrote:
> One good example how GC based languages do not hinder game development and are gaining place alongside C++ as part of the development process.

Yeah, but it's for tools, not the game itself. I don't think anyone ever said c# wasn't good for tools.

On Tuesday, 11 March 2014 at 10:21:49 UTC, dennis luehring wrote:
> Am 11.03.2014 10:38, schrieb Paulo Pinto:
>> Hi,
>>
>> since game development discussions tend to come up here, Sony is
>> making their C# tools open source, used in games by Naughty Dog,
>> Guerrilla Games and others.
>>
>> https://github.com/SonyWWS/ATF
>>
>> One good example how GC based languages do not hinder game
>> development and are gaining place alongside C++ as part of the
>> development process.
>
> still sony works on its own llvm/clang based c++ compiler for PS4 :)

Don't use gcc anymore is the best thing they could do.

On Tuesday, 11 March 2014 at 10:21:49 UTC, dennis luehring wrote:
> Am 11.03.2014 10:38, schrieb Paulo Pinto:
>> Hi,
>>
>> since game development discussions tend to come up here, Sony is
>> making their C# tools open source, used in games by Naughty Dog,
>> Guerrilla Games and others.
>>
>> https://github.com/SonyWWS/ATF
>>
>> One good example how GC based languages do not hinder game
>> development and are gaining place alongside C++ as part of the
>> development process.
>
> still sony works on its own llvm/clang based c++ compiler for PS4 :)

And Unity3D and Mono Game for Indies. :)

On Tuesday, 11 March 2014 at 12:04:40 UTC, Paulo Pinto wrote:
> On Tuesday, 11 March 2014 at 10:21:49 UTC, dennis luehring wrote:
>> Am 11.03.2014 10:38, schrieb Paulo Pinto:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> since game development discussions tend to come up here, Sony is
>>> making their C# tools open source, used in games by Naughty Dog,
>>> Guerrilla Games and others.
>>>
>>> https://github.com/SonyWWS/ATF
>>>
>>> One good example how GC based languages do not hinder game
>>> development and are gaining place alongside C++ as part of the
>>> development process.
>>
>> still sony works on its own llvm/clang based c++ compiler for PS4 :)
>
> And Unity3D and Mono Game for Indies. :)

Sony works on Unity and Mono Game?

On Tuesday, 11 March 2014 at 12:08:00 UTC, Szymon Gatner wrote:
> On Tuesday, 11 March 2014 at 12:04:40 UTC, Paulo Pinto wrote:
>> On Tuesday, 11 March 2014 at 10:21:49 UTC, dennis luehring wrote:
>>> Am 11.03.2014 10:38, schrieb Paulo Pinto:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> since game development discussions tend to come up here, Sony is
>>>> making their C# tools open source, used in games by Naughty Dog,
>>>> Guerrilla Games and others.
>>>>
>>>> https://github.com/SonyWWS/ATF
>>>>
>>>> One good example how GC based languages do not hinder game
>>>> development and are gaining place alongside C++ as part of the
>>>> development process.
>>>
>>> still sony works on its own llvm/clang based c++ compiler for PS4 :)
>>
>> And Unity3D and Mono Game for Indies. :)
>
> Sony works on Unity and Mono Game?

Not directly, but they are officially supported

Unity3D related info

http://develop.scee.net/files/presentations/gceurope2013/ParisGC2013Final.pdf

Slide 66, as part of the supported engines on PS4

Mono Game statement from their work together with Sony

https://monogame.codeplex.com/discussions/462255

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Paulo

Am 11.03.2014 11:45, schrieb Peter Alexander:
> On Tuesday, 11 March 2014 at 09:38:31 UTC, Paulo Pinto wrote:
>> One good example how GC based languages do not hinder game development
>> and are gaining place alongside C++ as part of the development process.
>
> Yeah, but it's for tools, not the game itself. I don't think anyone ever
> said c# wasn't good for tools.

Sure, I agree with you.

But this is a recursive trend. Back when Assembly was king, BASIC, C and Pascal were used for tooling, with Assembly having the king's role.

Then the same cycle repeated itself when C was the king and C++ was slowly being used for tooling.

So now GC enabled languages are starting to replace C++/MFC/Qt in the tooling area.

Eventually a new replacement cycle will happen, even if we are still away from it.

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Paulo