It is time to begin preparations for the next release of DMD. I am aim for a two week beta release to commence on 30 June with branching of 2.066 and end on 7 July with the release of 2.066.0.

Concurrently with this release, I would like to produce a maintenance release for 2.065. Please identify "non breaking" changes, ICEs, and regressions that are suitable of including in the 2.065.1.

Regards,
Andrew

Please do not tag anything until we decide if "virtual" is a keyword in D.

See: https://github.com/D-Programming-Language/dlang.org/pull/584

On 6/10/14, 10:01 PM, Brian Schott wrote:
> Please do not tag anything until we decide if "virtual" is a keyword in D.
>
> See: https://github.com/D-Programming-Language/dlang.org/pull/584

The branch will not be created until 30 June. I trust that this will be sorted out by then.

On Wednesday, 11 June 2014 at 04:17:04 UTC, Andrew Edwards wrote:
> On 6/10/14, 10:01 PM, Brian Schott wrote:
>> Please do not tag anything until we decide if "virtual" is a keyword in D.
>>
>> See: https://github.com/D-Programming-Language/dlang.org/pull/584
>
> The branch will not be created until 30 June. I trust that this will be sorted out by then.

I'll be there to test and bug report ! Thank for being the release lieutenant.

On 6/11/14, 2:23 AM, deadalnix wrote:
> I'll be there to test and bug report ! Thank for being the release
> lieutenant.

In my world a lieutenant is absolutely useless. Given the tutelage and guidance of solid staff non-commissioned officer, some day they will become productive members of the community. If they don't find such a mentor however, they will become loose cannons: destroying all in their path.

I tend to see life from a different perspective. Officers, in general, are quite useless. They are the "good idea fairies" who give little, if any, consideration to the ramifications of their ideas/proposals and will stop at nothing to see them come to fruition: regardless of consequences. Worse still, they are absolutely incapable of implementing the ideas/proposals they generate.

I prefer a "Chief and Indian" analogy. The Chief knows what needs to get done and, though she may not know have the tasks required to get the job done, leverages the strengths of the Indians to do so. The Indians provide the skills and know-how, and actually does the work.

This community needs far more Chiefs and Indians (arguably more Indians than Chiefs): and way less lieutenants.

Oh, wow! That was a pretty long way around to say thank you for your continued support.

On 11 June 2014 14:19, Andrew Edwards via Digitalmars-d-announce <digitalmars-d-announce@puremagic.com> wrote:
> On 6/11/14, 2:23 AM, deadalnix wrote:
>>
>> I'll be there to test and bug report ! Thank for being the release lieutenant.
>
>
> In my world a lieutenant is absolutely useless. Given the tutelage and guidance of solid staff non-commissioned officer, some day they will become productive members of the community. If they don't find such a mentor however, they will become loose cannons: destroying all in their path.
>
> I tend to see life from a different perspective. Officers, in general, are quite useless. They are the "good idea fairies" who give little, if any, consideration to the ramifications of their ideas/proposals and will stop at nothing to see them come to fruition: regardless of consequences. Worse still, they are absolutely incapable of implementing the ideas/proposals they generate.
>
> I prefer a "Chief and Indian" analogy. The Chief knows what needs to get done and, though she may not know have the tasks required to get the job done, leverages the strengths of the Indians to do so. The Indians provide the skills and know-how, and actually does the work.
>
> This community needs far more Chiefs and Indians (arguably more Indians than Chiefs): and way less lieutenants.
>
> Oh, wow! That was a pretty long way around to say thank you for your continued support.


Nice analogy (and outlook!)

Now, as 'Chief' of GDC talking to 'Chief' or D releases, I must say that the release timings are abysmal.  At least 2 months overdue.  I have only just managed to catch up to 2.065, and that's not due out till the weekend.

Things used to be so much easier when releases were less than 2 months apart.

On 6/11/14, 11:24 AM, Iain Buclaw via Digitalmars-d-announce wrote:
> On 11 June 2014 14:19, Andrew Edwards via Digitalmars-d-announce
> <digitalmars-d-announce@puremagic.com> wrote:
>> On 6/11/14, 2:23 AM, deadalnix wrote:
>>>
>>> I'll be there to test and bug report ! Thank for being the release
>>> lieutenant.
>>
>>
>> In my world a lieutenant is absolutely useless. Given the tutelage and
>> guidance of solid staff non-commissioned officer, some day they will become
>> productive members of the community. If they don't find such a mentor
>> however, they will become loose cannons: destroying all in their path.
>>
>> I tend to see life from a different perspective. Officers, in general, are
>> quite useless. They are the "good idea fairies" who give little, if any,
>> consideration to the ramifications of their ideas/proposals and will stop at
>> nothing to see them come to fruition: regardless of consequences. Worse
>> still, they are absolutely incapable of implementing the ideas/proposals
>> they generate.
>>
>> I prefer a "Chief and Indian" analogy. The Chief knows what needs to get
>> done and, though she may not know have the tasks required to get the job
>> done, leverages the strengths of the Indians to do so. The Indians provide
>> the skills and know-how, and actually does the work.
>>
>> This community needs far more Chiefs and Indians (arguably more Indians than
>> Chiefs): and way less lieutenants.
>>
>> Oh, wow! That was a pretty long way around to say thank you for your
>> continued support.
>
>
> Nice analogy (and outlook!)
>
> Now, as 'Chief' of GDC talking to 'Chief' or D releases, I must say
> that the release timings are abysmal.  At least 2 months overdue.  I
> have only just managed to catch up to 2.065, and that's not due out
> till the weekend.
>
> Things used to be so much easier when releases were less than 2 months apart.
>

You are absolutely correct... I was asked to delay the April and, after that, my personal life took precedence. I am aiming is to get back on track with a two month release cycle. The maintenance releases will remain on a six month cycle though.

On 6/11/2014 9:19 AM, Andrew Edwards wrote:
> On 6/11/14, 2:23 AM, deadalnix wrote:
>> I'll be there to test and bug report ! Thank for being the release
>> lieutenant.
>
> In my world a lieutenant is absolutely useless. Given the tutelage and
> guidance of solid staff non-commissioned officer, some day they will
> become productive members of the community. If they don't find such a
> mentor however, they will become loose cannons: destroying all in their
> path.
>
> I tend to see life from a different perspective. Officers, in general,
> are quite useless. They are the "good idea fairies" who give little, if
> any, consideration to the ramifications of their ideas/proposals and
> will stop at nothing to see them come to fruition: regardless of
> consequences. Worse still, they are absolutely incapable of implementing
> the ideas/proposals they generate.
>

Reminds me of both MBAs and MASH ;)

On 11 June 2014 17:56, Andrew Edwards via Digitalmars-d-announce <digitalmars-d-announce@puremagic.com> wrote:
> On 6/11/14, 11:24 AM, Iain Buclaw via Digitalmars-d-announce wrote:
>>
>> On 11 June 2014 14:19, Andrew Edwards via Digitalmars-d-announce <digitalmars-d-announce@puremagic.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> On 6/11/14, 2:23 AM, deadalnix wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I'll be there to test and bug report ! Thank for being the release lieutenant.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> In my world a lieutenant is absolutely useless. Given the tutelage and
>>> guidance of solid staff non-commissioned officer, some day they will
>>> become
>>> productive members of the community. If they don't find such a mentor
>>> however, they will become loose cannons: destroying all in their path.
>>>
>>> I tend to see life from a different perspective. Officers, in general,
>>> are
>>> quite useless. They are the "good idea fairies" who give little, if any,
>>> consideration to the ramifications of their ideas/proposals and will stop
>>> at
>>> nothing to see them come to fruition: regardless of consequences. Worse
>>> still, they are absolutely incapable of implementing the ideas/proposals
>>> they generate.
>>>
>>> I prefer a "Chief and Indian" analogy. The Chief knows what needs to get
>>> done and, though she may not know have the tasks required to get the job
>>> done, leverages the strengths of the Indians to do so. The Indians
>>> provide
>>> the skills and know-how, and actually does the work.
>>>
>>> This community needs far more Chiefs and Indians (arguably more Indians
>>> than
>>> Chiefs): and way less lieutenants.
>>>
>>> Oh, wow! That was a pretty long way around to say thank you for your continued support.
>>
>>
>>
>> Nice analogy (and outlook!)
>>
>> Now, as 'Chief' of GDC talking to 'Chief' or D releases, I must say that the release timings are abysmal.  At least 2 months overdue.  I have only just managed to catch up to 2.065, and that's not due out till the weekend.
>>
>> Things used to be so much easier when releases were less than 2 months apart.
>>
>
> You are absolutely correct... I was asked to delay the April and, after that, my personal life took precedence. I am aiming is to get back on track with a two month release cycle. The maintenance releases will remain on a six month cycle though.


FYI, I have actually collected some stats about DMD vs GDC supported D2 versions and their dates.  It's quite interesting, and ends with a guestimation of the 2.067 release date, followed by how long till 2.066 will be merge down into GDC. :-)

Maybe this should be posted somewhere, Andrei?

http://gdcproject.org/data/gdc-dmd-v2release.svg

On Wednesday, 11 June 2014 at 02:01:24 UTC, Brian Schott wrote:
> Please do not tag anything until we decide if "virtual" is a keyword in D.
>
> See: https://github.com/D-Programming-Language/dlang.org/pull/584

It was decided and 100% certain - "virtual" is not going in. Need to remove it from DMD before this release is out.