On Saturday, August 04, 2012 04:44:12 Alex Rønne Petersen wrote:
> > It's been discussed a time or two that we should have an incubator project for Phobos where potential Phobos modules go to be used and ironed out before actually being reviewed for inclusion in Phobos. But it's never materialized. Someone(s) would have to organize it and manage it, and no one has done so.
> > 
> > - Jonathan M Davis
> 
> I thought this was the idea of etc.* all along...

Someone may have suggested that at some point, but that's not the way that it's used at all.

> If nobody's against it, we should definitely get the ball rolling.

I don't think that anyone's really against it, and it's not like it really needs to be official. The Phobos review process can be the same that it's been. There would just be a place for future Phobos stuff to be publicly tinkered with and allowed to evolve through usage rather than just designing everything up front as has often been the case with Phobos modules. The problem is that someone actually needs to step up and make it happen.

- Jonathan M Davis

Am 04.08.2012 04:42, schrieb Jonathan M Davis:
> On Saturday, August 04, 2012 02:37:07 Stefan Scholl wrote:
>> bearophile<bearophileHUGS@lycos.com>  wrote:
>>> Caligo:
>>>> When are allocators going to be ready?
>>>
>>> Direct experience shows me that once things are in Phobos, it's
>>> not easy to fix their interface/API. Andrei fears of breaking
>>
>> Go's solution are experimental packages. You can always use them,
>> but you know that they will change and at some time will be in
>> antother namespace/directory.
>
> It's been discussed a time or two that we should have an incubator project for
> Phobos where potential Phobos modules go to be used and ironed out before
> actually being reviewed for inclusion in Phobos. But it's never materialized.
> Someone(s) would have to organize it and manage it, and no one has done so.
>
> - Jonathan M Davis

Where should it be hosted, github?

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Paulo

On Saturday, August 04, 2012 11:25:35 Paulo Pinto wrote:
> Where should it be hosted, github?

Probably. That's where we're putting everything else.

- Jonathan M Davis

On 04-08-2012 04:57, Jonathan M Davis wrote:
> On Saturday, August 04, 2012 04:44:12 Alex Rønne Petersen wrote:
>>> It's been discussed a time or two that we should have an incubator project
>>> for Phobos where potential Phobos modules go to be used and ironed out
>>> before actually being reviewed for inclusion in Phobos. But it's never
>>> materialized. Someone(s) would have to organize it and manage it, and no
>>> one has done so.
>>>
>>> - Jonathan M Davis
>>
>> I thought this was the idea of etc.* all along...
>
> Someone may have suggested that at some point, but that's not the way that
> it's used at all.

Well: http://dlang.org/phobos/index.html

"etc

This is the root of a hierarchy of modules mirroring the std hierarchy. Modules in etc are not standard D modules. They are here because they are experimental, or for some other reason are not quite suitable for std, although they are still useful."

>
>> If nobody's against it, we should definitely get the ball rolling.
>
> I don't think that anyone's really against it, and it's not like it really
> needs to be official. The Phobos review process can be the same that it's been.
> There would just be a place for future Phobos stuff to be publicly tinkered
> with and allowed to evolve through usage rather than just designing everything
> up front as has often been the case with Phobos modules. The problem is that
> someone actually needs to step up and make it happen.

Well, what actually needs to be done? When can something be submitted for etc.* rather than std.*? Etc...

>
> - Jonathan M Davis
>

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