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April 15, 2009 Re: dmd 1.043 alpha for FreeBSD 7.1 | ||||
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Walter Bright Wrote:
> Because gcc on linux predefines "linux", not "Linux".
Please change the version identifier from linux to Linux.
D is a chance to fix stuff wrong or inconsistent in other languages. C compilers may use inconsistent naming like __APPLE__, __MACH__, __linux, _WIN32, _WIN64, __FreeBSD__, etc. Why not take the opportunity to fix the inconsistency in addition to all the other improvements D has?
The argument that it should be linux because of gcc does not apply to those who come from other languages. If someone is learning D after only knowing Java or C#, and they want to use versioning, linux is harder to remember for them. I don't care how gcc does it. I've never really used gcc. (Might even be harder to remember for people who used C a lot.) Is it more important to be consistent with gcc or with other D identifiers?
Plus, how many people want it to be linux instead of Linux? From what I've seen, it seems the majority would prefer it being Linux.
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April 16, 2009 Re: dmd 1.043 alpha for FreeBSD 7.1 | ||||
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Posted in reply to Jordan Miner | On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 1:08 AM, Jordan Miner <jminer2613@nospam.students.pcci.edu> wrote: > Walter Bright Wrote: > >> Because gcc on linux predefines "linux", not "Linux". > > Please change the version identifier from linux to Linux. > I realise I probably did my part to spike this discussion. However, given the complaints Walter got from adding the Posix identifier, removing "linux" is obviously a really bad idea. But I must say I think "Linux" should be added, and "linux" be there for legacy reasons, like "darwin" I guess. -Tomas |
April 16, 2009 Re: dmd 1.043 alpha for FreeBSD 7.1 | ||||
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Posted in reply to Tomas Lindquist Olsen | Tomas Lindquist Olsen, el 16 de abril a las 10:46 me escribiste: > On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 1:08 AM, Jordan Miner <jminer2613@nospam.students.pcci.edu> wrote: > > Walter Bright Wrote: > > > >> Because gcc on linux predefines "linux", not "Linux". > > > > Please change the version identifier from linux to Linux. > > > > I realise I probably did my part to spike this discussion. > > However, given the complaints Walter got from adding the Posix identifier, removing "linux" is obviously a really bad idea. > > But I must say I think "Linux" should be added, and "linux" be there for legacy reasons, like "darwin" I guess. This seems like a reasonable tradeoff, issuing a deprecation warning when the legacy version identifiers are used can be a good idea too, so people can update the code eventually and the redundant identifiers can be removed in the future. -- Leandro Lucarella (luca) | Blog colectivo: http://www.mazziblog.com.ar/blog/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- GPG Key: 5F5A8D05 (F8CD F9A7 BF00 5431 4145 104C 949E BFB6 5F5A 8D05) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- |
April 20, 2009 Re: dmd 1.043 alpha for FreeBSD 7.1 | ||||
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Posted in reply to Tomas Lindquist Olsen | Tomas Lindquist Olsen Wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 1:08 AM, Jordan Miner <jminer2613@nospam.students.pcci.edu> wrote:
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> > Please change the version identifier from linux to Linux.
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> I realise I probably did my part to spike this discussion.
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> However, given the complaints Walter got from adding the Posix identifier, removing "linux" is obviously a really bad idea.
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> But I must say I think "Linux" should be added, and "linux" be there for legacy reasons, like "darwin" I guess.
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> -Tomas
Yes, I definitely agree. By "change", I meant:
- Add Linux as an identifier and deprecate linux.
- Then, after a long enough time for everyone to switch to using Linux, remove linux.
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