On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 11:55:19PM -0400, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:
> On Tue, 18 Jun 2013 23:14:16 -0400, Tyro[17] <ridimz@yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> >The site is not active at the moment... I wasted my entire month's bandwidth allocation allocation in six days trying to properly configure a server on the VPN had to move that part of my learning to a local box.
> 
> I think you need to find another hosting company...
> 
> At this point, you don't need concurrency, you need freedom of bandwidth and hard drive space.
[...]

Yeah, I don't know what your budget is, but I personally use johncompanies.com for their Linux VPS (virtual private server). Tell them you contribute to open source projects (namely, D), and you'll get a discount. Because it's not an actual physical server, but a virtual server running on shared server clusters, it has pretty good bandwidth / disk space for the price, with triple T3 redundant 'Net connection (i.e. minimal downtime), and you get root access and can configure everything to your heart's content. Tech support is also excellent; you get direct access to the admins maintaining the servers, no nonsense with bouncing around poorly-trained question card readers. They're quite willing to hand-hold paying customers through the process of setting things up, and you can ask them to do periodic backups of important files/directories. Highly recommended if your budget allows.


T

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On 2013-06-19 03:09, Joseph Rushton Wakeling wrote:

> Amusing question -- how does everyone think it should be pronounced?  And how
> does Andrew pronounce it?

It looks very Swedish. To pronounce it in Swedish with English sounds/letters would look something like this:

aakeroen

Å - should be pronounced something like the "aw" in English "saw"
ö - like the English "e" or "i" in "her" or "sir"

The "e" and "k" should be pronounced like the "e" and "k" in "elk".

Find some sound files on Wikipedia:

Å - http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/84/Close-mid_back_rounded_vowel.ogg

Ö - http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/53/Close-mid_front_rounded_vowel.ogg

-- 
/Jacob Carlborg

Andrew -- thanks for the detailed explanation.  I have to say that I'm extremely impressed by this kind of dedication to D given the long term constraints you've experienced in being able to use it for yourself.

When you _do_ get the time, I can assure you that you will have huge amounts of fun mastering D -- something that I don't doubt you will achieve.

I'm sorry to hear about your troubles with dtutor.org.  That said if you want to speed things up there are a number of things I think you could consider.

The first would be to build the first generation of the site using a more standard CMS of some kind -- MediaWiki springs to mind.  You could even as a first iteration have dtutor.org forward to a location on wiki.dlang.org (e.g. the already-existing wiki.dlang.org/Tutorials) to avoid the hosting issues. Alternatively you could at first maintain tutorials on GitHub using Ddoc or some other markup.

I know full well that this would be much less than you want -- it would lack all the interactive features that you're looking to develop, and doesn't offer you the learning opportunities of developing a site in D -- but it does get you to the point of being already able to solicit and maintain tutorials which could later be extended to work with the second, fully-functional version of the site.

Basically, don't let perfect be the enemy of good -- biting off more than you can chew doesn't stop you returning it to the plate and slicing it up into smaller pieces!

I don't really feel confident offering you help with the development of the site itself -- I'm not experienced with web development and in the short term I'm not in a position to correct that -- but I'll happily contribute some writing :-)

Best wishes,

    -- Joe

On 06/19/2013 10:32 AM, Jacob Carlborg wrote:
> Å - should be pronounced something like the "aw" in English "saw"

Interesting that you relate it to "aw".  I would have said it sounds like an "O" pronounced more in the back of the throat than usual, but now I think of it, it's almost halfway between the "O" and "aw" sounds.

On Wednesday, 19 June 2013 at 11:03:11 UTC, Joseph Rushton Wakeling wrote:
> On 06/19/2013 10:32 AM, Jacob Carlborg wrote:
>> Å - should be pronounced something like the "aw" in English "saw"
>
> Interesting that you relate it to "aw".  I would have said it sounds like an "O"
> pronounced more in the back of the throat than usual, but now I think of it,
> it's almost halfway between the "O" and "aw" sounds.

That's kindof how I think about it for Norwegian.

On 06/19/2013 12:08 PM, John Colvin wrote:
> That's kindof how I think about it for Norwegian.

For me it was Danish, and it always makes me think of going for a bådfart :-)

On 2013-06-19 13:02, Joseph Rushton Wakeling wrote:

> Interesting that you relate it to "aw".  I would have said it sounds like an "O"
> pronounced more in the back of the throat than usual, but now I think of it,
> it's almost halfway between the "O" and "aw" sounds.

"aw" and "å" are not the same sound but the closest I could come up with. There's also the audio links.

-- 
/Jacob Carlborg

On Jun 18, 2013, at 8:55 PM, Steven Schveighoffer <schveiguy@yahoo.com> wrote:

> On Tue, 18 Jun 2013 23:14:16 -0400, Tyro[17] <ridimz@yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
>> The site is not active at the moment... I wasted my entire month's bandwidth allocation allocation in six days trying to properly configure a server on the VPN had to move that part of my learning to a local box.
> 
> I think you need to find another hosting company…

I had thought that maybe he was talking about a bandwidth limitation imposed by where he works/lives.  Either way, I'd work on finding a hosting service that has turn-key web support.  You could get things rolling with a blog-style front page (Wordpress, for example) backed by a wiki for the tutorial content.

On 6/19/13 6:56 AM, Joseph Rushton Wakeling wrote:
> Andrew -- thanks for the detailed explanation.  I have to say that I'm extremely
> impressed by this kind of dedication to D given the long term constraints you've
> experienced in being able to use it for yourself.

Not a problem. When I find something that I believe worthy of my attention, I am not against putting in the time. Just wish I had more of it. But then again... don't we all?

> When you _do_ get the time, I can assure you that you will have huge amounts of
> fun mastering D -- something that I don't doubt you will achieve.

Something I look forward to dearly.

> I'm sorry to hear about your troubles with dtutor.org.  That said if you want to
> speed things up there are a number of things I think you could consider.

Minor setback. It mostly have to do with timing. As it stands the server is back online. I still need to finish the configurations but at least there is a static "under construction" page now.

> The first would be to build the first generation of the site using a more
> standard CMS of some kind -- MediaWiki springs to mind.  You could even as a
> first iteration have dtutor.org forward to a location on wiki.dlang.org (e.g.
> the already-existing wiki.dlang.org/Tutorials) to avoid the hosting issues.
> Alternatively you could at first maintain tutorials on GitHub using Ddoc or some
> other markup.

I'll be taking a look at vibelog soon for use as the interim solution.

> I know full well that this would be much less than you want -- it would lack all
> the interactive features that you're looking to develop, and doesn't offer you
> the learning opportunities of developing a site in D -- but it does get you to
> the point of being already able to solicit and maintain tutorials which could
> later be extended to work with the second, fully-functional version of the site.

Point taken. I should be ready to start soliciting tutorials within the next week or two at the most.

> Basically, don't let perfect be the enemy of good -- biting off more than you
> can chew doesn't stop you returning it to the plate and slicing it up into
> smaller pieces!
>
> I don't really feel confident offering you help with the development of the site
> itself -- I'm not experienced with web development and in the short term I'm not
> in a position to correct that -- but I'll happily contribute some writing :-)

Any assistance will be greatly appreciated.

> Best wishes,
>
>      -- Joe
>

Thanks,
-- 

Andrew Edwards
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On 6/19/13 12:53 AM, H. S. Teoh wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 11:55:19PM -0400, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:
>> On Tue, 18 Jun 2013 23:14:16 -0400, Tyro[17] <ridimz@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>> The site is not active at the moment... I wasted my entire month's
>>> bandwidth allocation allocation in six days trying to properly
>>> configure a server on the VPN had to move that part of my learning
>>> to a local box.
>>
>> I think you need to find another hosting company...
>>
>> At this point, you don't need concurrency, you need freedom of
>> bandwidth and hard drive space.
> [...]
>
> Yeah, I don't know what your budget is, but I personally use
> johncompanies.com for their Linux VPS (virtual private server). Tell
> them you contribute to open source projects (namely, D), and you'll get
> a discount. Because it's not an actual physical server, but a virtual
> server running on shared server clusters, it has pretty good bandwidth /
> disk space for the price, with triple T3 redundant 'Net connection (i.e.
> minimal downtime), and you get root access and can configure everything
> to your heart's content. Tech support is also excellent; you get direct
> access to the admins maintaining the servers, no nonsense with bouncing
> around poorly-trained question card readers. They're quite willing to
> hand-hold paying customers through the process of setting things up, and
> you can ask them to do periodic backups of important files/directories.
> Highly recommended if your budget allows.
>
>
> T
>

I miss typed in my earlier post I have a VPS running Ubuntu 13.04. I exhausted my local bandwidth. I will be taking a look at johncompanies.com though. Thanks for the info.

-- 

Andrew Edwards
--------------------
http://www.akeron.co
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    string location = "@", period = ".";
    return ("info" ~ location ~ "afidem" ~ period ~ "org");
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