I'm looking into this, but from the looks of it, yahoo has really screwed the world on this one.  I can re-enable all of the suspended accounts (a couple hundred, which interestingly isn't every account) but I'm not sure it won't immediately recur.

I really don't want to disable the bounce detection option.  There's enough users that drop their accounts without unsubscribing that this system picks up and handles automatically that it's rather useful to me.  Without it I have to find those users among the hundreds of non-list oriented bounces I get that are just spam related crap.  It's doable, but sucks.  This is the !fun part of infrastructure maintainership.

On 4/10/14, 8:17 AM, Orvid King wrote:
> As you may or may not have noticed, everyone's subscription to
> digitalmars.D was just disabled due to too many bounces. Blame Yahoo.
> Blame them 100% for you having to re-subscribe. Blame them for not
> having done anything about the problem since they implemented their
> broken rules last weekend. And finally read
> http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ietf/current/msg87153.html to
> understand why you were unsubscribed from the list. Then bug the right
> person to do the same as John and disable the mechanism that disables
> subscriptions after multiple bounced emails.
>

Well, it just bounced me off of the d.learn list as well...

On Thu, 10 Apr 2014 13:52:57 -0500, Brad Roberts <braddr@puremagic.com> wrote:

> I'm looking into this, but from the looks of it, yahoo has really screwed the world on this one.  I can re-enable all of the suspended accounts (a couple hundred, which interestingly isn't every account) but I'm not sure it won't immediately recur.
>
> I really don't want to disable the bounce detection option.  There's enough users that drop their accounts without unsubscribing that this system picks up and handles automatically that it's rather useful to me.  Without it I have to find those users among the hundreds of non-list oriented bounces I get that are just spam related crap.  It's doable, but sucks.  This is the !fun part of infrastructure maintainership.
>
> On 4/10/14, 8:17 AM, Orvid King wrote:
>> As you may or may not have noticed, everyone's subscription to
>> digitalmars.D was just disabled due to too many bounces. Blame Yahoo.
>> Blame them 100% for you having to re-subscribe. Blame them for not
>> having done anything about the problem since they implemented their
>> broken rules last weekend. And finally read
>> http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ietf/current/msg87153.html to
>> understand why you were unsubscribed from the list. Then bug the right
>> person to do the same as John and disable the mechanism that disables
>> subscriptions after multiple bounced emails.

Yup.. I saw the notifications come in (I get notifications of all those sorts of events).  For now, I've removed the current suppressions triggered by the bounces and set all @yahoo.* accounts to go through moderation.  Those seem to be the approach other list owners have taken.  Obviously not a long term workable solution at all.

On 4/10/14, 2:57 PM, Orvid King wrote:
> Well, it just bounced me off of the d.learn list as well...
>
> On Thu, 10 Apr 2014 13:52:57 -0500, Brad Roberts <braddr@puremagic.com> wrote:
>
>> I'm looking into this, but from the looks of it, yahoo has really screwed the world on this one.
>> I can re-enable all of the suspended accounts (a couple hundred, which interestingly isn't every
>> account) but I'm not sure it won't immediately recur.
>>
>> I really don't want to disable the bounce detection option.  There's enough users that drop their
>> accounts without unsubscribing that this system picks up and handles automatically that it's
>> rather useful to me.  Without it I have to find those users among the hundreds of non-list
>> oriented bounces I get that are just spam related crap.  It's doable, but sucks.  This is the !fun
>> part of infrastructure maintainership.
>>
>> On 4/10/14, 8:17 AM, Orvid King wrote:
>>> As you may or may not have noticed, everyone's subscription to
>>> digitalmars.D was just disabled due to too many bounces. Blame Yahoo.
>>> Blame them 100% for you having to re-subscribe. Blame them for not
>>> having done anything about the problem since they implemented their
>>> broken rules last weekend. And finally read
>>> http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ietf/current/msg87153.html to
>>> understand why you were unsubscribed from the list. Then bug the right
>>> person to do the same as John and disable the mechanism that disables
>>> subscriptions after multiple bounced emails.

Am Thu, 10 Apr 2014 17:33:35 -0700
schrieb Brad Roberts <braddr@puremagic.com>:

> Yup.. I saw the notifications come in (I get notifications of all those sorts of events).  For now, I've removed the current suppressions triggered by the bounces and set all @yahoo.* accounts to go through moderation.  Those seem to be the approach other list owners have taken.  Obviously not a long term workable solution at all.

I guess you already know, but mailman 2.1.16 can be configured to be DMARC compliant. It's not a perfect solution though.

http://wiki.list.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=17891458

On 4/11/14, 8:57 AM, Johannes Pfau wrote:
> Am Thu, 10 Apr 2014 17:33:35 -0700
> schrieb Brad Roberts <braddr@puremagic.com>:
>
>> Yup.. I saw the notifications come in (I get notifications of all
>> those sorts of events).  For now, I've removed the current
>> suppressions triggered by the bounces and set all @yahoo.* accounts
>> to go through moderation.  Those seem to be the approach other list
>> owners have taken.  Obviously not a long term workable solution at
>> all.
>
> I guess you already know, but mailman 2.1.16 can be configured to be
> DMARC compliant. It's not a perfect solution though.
>
> http://wiki.list.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=17891458

Yeah, I saw that.  And like pretty much everyone who manages a mailing list, don't consider that an actually useful answer.  Posts aren't from the list, they're from the people who post to the list.