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Suppressing UTFException / Squashing Bad Codepoints?
Dec 23, 2013
John Carter
Dec 23, 2013
Brad Anderson
Dec 23, 2013
John Carter
Dec 24, 2013
Brad Anderson
Dec 24, 2013
Jonathan M Davis
December 23, 2013
This frustrated me in Ruby unicode too....

Typically i/o is the ultimate in "untrusted and untrustworthy" sources, coming usually from systems beyond my control.

Likely to be corrupted, or maliciously crafted, or defective...

Unfortunately not all sequences of bytes are valid UTF8.

Thus inevitably in every collection of inputs there are always going to be around 1 in a million codepoints resulting in an UTFException thrown.

Alas, I always have to do Regex matches on the other 999999 valid codepoints.....

Is there a standard recipe in stdio for squashing bad codepoints to some default?

These days memory is very much larger than most files I want to scan.

So if I was doing this in C I would typically mmap the file PROT_READ | PROT_WRITE and MAP_PRIVATE then run down the file squashing bad codepoints and then run down it again matching patterns.

In Ruby I have a horridly inefficient utility....
      def IO.read_utf_8(file)

read(file,:external_encoding=>'ASCII-8BIT').encode('UTF-8',:undef=>:replace)
      end

What is the idiomatic D solution to this conundrum?

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December 23, 2013
On Monday, 23 December 2013 at 20:48:08 UTC, John Carter wrote:
> This frustrated me in Ruby unicode too....
>
> Typically i/o is the ultimate in "untrusted and untrustworthy" sources,
> coming usually from systems beyond my control.
>
> Likely to be corrupted, or maliciously crafted, or defective...
>
> Unfortunately not all sequences of bytes are valid UTF8.
>
> Thus inevitably in every collection of inputs there are always going to be
> around 1 in a million codepoints resulting in an UTFException thrown.
>
> Alas, I always have to do Regex matches on the other 999999 valid
> codepoints.....
>
> Is there a standard recipe in stdio for squashing bad codepoints to some
> default?
>
> These days memory is very much larger than most files I want to scan.
>
> So if I was doing this in C I would typically mmap the file PROT_READ |
> PROT_WRITE and MAP_PRIVATE then run down the file squashing bad codepoints
> and then run down it again matching patterns.
>
> In Ruby I have a horridly inefficient utility....
>       def IO.read_utf_8(file)
>
> read(file,:external_encoding=>'ASCII-8BIT').encode('UTF-8',:undef=>:replace)
>       end
>
> What is the idiomatic D solution to this conundrum?

The encoding schemes in std.encoding support cleaning up input using the sanitize function.

http://dlang.org/phobos/std_encoding.html#.EncodingScheme.sanitize

It'd be nicer if the API were range based but it seems to do the trick in my experience.
December 23, 2013
Eww.

If I read the source correctly it mallocs a new array and runs down the original at least three times! (Four if you count peeks)

Not to mention that it is completely unintegrated with stdio.

Sigh! I miss the Good Old Days of 7-bit ASCII! ;-)


On Tue, Dec 24, 2013 at 9:51 AM, Brad Anderson <eco@gnuk.net> wrote:

> On Monday, 23 December 2013 at 20:48:08 UTC, John Carter wrote:
>
>> This frustrated me in Ruby unicode too....
>>
>> Typically i/o is the ultimate in "untrusted and untrustworthy" sources, coming usually from systems beyond my control.
>>
>> Likely to be corrupted, or maliciously crafted, or defective...
>>
>> Unfortunately not all sequences of bytes are valid UTF8.
>>
>> Thus inevitably in every collection of inputs there are always going to be around 1 in a million codepoints resulting in an UTFException thrown.
>>
>> Alas, I always have to do Regex matches on the other 999999 valid codepoints.....
>>
>> Is there a standard recipe in stdio for squashing bad codepoints to some default?
>>
>> These days memory is very much larger than most files I want to scan.
>>
>> So if I was doing this in C I would typically mmap the file PROT_READ | PROT_WRITE and MAP_PRIVATE then run down the file squashing bad codepoints and then run down it again matching patterns.
>>
>> In Ruby I have a horridly inefficient utility....
>>       def IO.read_utf_8(file)
>>
>> read(file,:external_encoding=>'ASCII-8BIT').encode('UTF-8',:
>> undef=>:replace)
>>       end
>>
>> What is the idiomatic D solution to this conundrum?
>>
>
> The encoding schemes in std.encoding support cleaning up input using the sanitize function.
>
> http://dlang.org/phobos/std_encoding.html#.EncodingScheme.sanitize
>
> It'd be nicer if the API were range based but it seems to do the trick in my experience.
>



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John Carter
Phone : (64)(3) 358 6639
Tait Electronics
PO Box 1645 Christchurch
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December 24, 2013
On Monday, 23 December 2013 at 22:41:47 UTC, John Carter wrote:
> Eww.
>
> If I read the source correctly it mallocs a new array and runs down the
> original at least three times! (Four if you count peeks)
>
> Not to mention that it is completely unintegrated with stdio.
>
> Sigh! I miss the Good Old Days of 7-bit ASCII! ;-)
>

Pull requests with improvements are always welcome. I don't think
std.encoding gets a lot of attention.
December 24, 2013
On Tuesday, December 24, 2013 02:06:22 Brad Anderson wrote:
> On Monday, 23 December 2013 at 22:41:47 UTC, John Carter wrote:
> > Eww.
> > 
> > If I read the source correctly it mallocs a new array and runs
> > down the
> > original at least three times! (Four if you count peeks)
> > 
> > Not to mention that it is completely unintegrated with stdio.
> > 
> > Sigh! I miss the Good Old Days of 7-bit ASCII! ;-)
> 
> Pull requests with improvements are always welcome. I don't think std.encoding gets a lot of attention.

Andrei has also stated that he thinks that it's a failed experiment. I think that it's one of the modules that could use a redesign (including making it range based), but no one has taken the time to do that.

- Jonathan M Davis