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February 01, 2014 GC-free techniques for a wiki page - Was: Smart pointers instead of GC? | ||||
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On 1/31/14, Andrej Mitrovic <andrej.mitrovich@gmail.com> wrote:
> Bumping old thread:
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> There is an ever-increasing amount of newcomers in #d on IRC who end up asking how to avoid the GC or at least to be able to determine where implicit allocations happen. I think we should work on creating a wiki page and gather as much advice as possible on dealing with the GC, implicit allocations, real-time constraints, etc.
It looks like this post was missed, and instead people started replying to messages from over a year ago. :)
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February 02, 2014 Re: GC-free techniques for a wiki page - Was: Smart pointers instead of GC? | ||||
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Posted in reply to Andrej Mitrovic | On Saturday, 1 February 2014 at 20:26:51 UTC, Andrej Mitrovic wrote: > On 1/31/14, Andrej Mitrovic <andrej.mitrovich@gmail.com> wrote: >> Bumping old thread: >> >> There is an ever-increasing amount of newcomers in #d on IRC who >> end up asking how to avoid the GC or at least to be able to >> determine where implicit allocations happen. I think we should >> work on creating a wiki page and gather as much advice as >> possible on dealing with the GC, implicit allocations, real-time >> constraints, etc. > > It looks like this post was missed, and instead people started > replying to messages from over a year ago. :) I found this page quite useful (http://dlang.org/memory.html), but I acknowledge it's probably not enough. I've only been here a short time, but I'm beginning to see that things with "we should" likely won't every happen until they are replaced with "I should". |
February 02, 2014 Re: GC-free techniques for a wiki page - Was: Smart pointers instead of GC? | ||||
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Posted in reply to Mike | On Sunday, 2 February 2014 at 05:30:12 UTC, Mike wrote: > On Saturday, 1 February 2014 at 20:26:51 UTC, Andrej Mitrovic wrote: >> On 1/31/14, Andrej Mitrovic <andrej.mitrovich@gmail.com> wrote: >>> Bumping old thread: >>> >>> There is an ever-increasing amount of newcomers in #d on IRC who >>> end up asking how to avoid the GC or at least to be able to >>> determine where implicit allocations happen. I think we should >>> work on creating a wiki page and gather as much advice as >>> possible on dealing with the GC, implicit allocations, real-time >>> constraints, etc. >> >> It looks like this post was missed, and instead people started >> replying to messages from over a year ago. :) > > I found this page quite useful (http://dlang.org/memory.html), but I acknowledge it's probably not enough. > > I've only been here a short time, but I'm beginning to see that things with "we should" likely won't every happen until they are replaced with "I should". I wrote this a while back: http://poita.org/2012/12/15/using-d-without-the-gc.html It doesn't cover everything though, and I think the static array initialisation allocation is now out-of-date. |
February 03, 2014 Re: GC-free techniques for a wiki page - Was: Smart pointers instead of GC? | ||||
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Posted in reply to Peter Alexander | Is it possible to switch off GC during compilation so that I will get compilation error on every statement that invites GC in? |
February 03, 2014 Re: GC-free techniques for a wiki page - Was: Smart pointers instead of GC? | ||||
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Posted in reply to Gopan | On Monday, 3 February 2014 at 12:22:48 UTC, Gopan wrote: > Is it possible to switch off GC during compilation so that I will get > compilation error on every statement that invites GC in? No, right now only run-time asserts are possible. You may want to wait for https://github.com/D-Programming-Language/dmd/pull/1886 to be merged. |
February 03, 2014 Re: GC-free techniques for a wiki page - Was: Smart pointers instead of GC? | ||||
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Posted in reply to Gopan | Am Mon, 03 Feb 2014 12:22:47 +0000 schrieb "Gopan" <gopakumar.gg@gmail.com>: > Is it possible to switch off GC during compilation so that I will > get > compilation error on every statement that invites GC in? I would think that parts of druntime/Phobos make use of the GC at program startup already. And in general any module not on the compiler command-line when using that switch and with only a .di file cannot be statically checked. Even lazy initialization using the GC would not work: private Foo foo; @property Foo someThreadLocalFoo() { if (foo is null) foo = new Foo; // <- error return foo; } If you compile that module alone or as part of a library, the compiler has to assume that some other module will eventually make use of this function. -- Marco |
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