June 15, 2020
On 6/15/20 2:37 PM, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
> On 6/15/20 6:25 AM, Kagamin wrote:
>> auto our_freeaddrinfo(A...)(A a) @system
>> {
>>    initialize;
>>    if (freeaddrinfoPointer)
>>      // May be null if WSAStartup() failed, just do nothing
>>      return;
>>    return freeaddrinfoPointer(a);
>> }
>>
>> My, my, that's a subtle bug.
> 
> What is the bug? Thanks.

Oh, I see. Forgot to negate!
June 15, 2020
On 6/14/20 10:37 PM, Mathias LANG wrote:
> On Sunday, 14 June 2020 at 18:53:52 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
>> Getting rid of static cdtors is a good goal for druntime and standard library. Modules that need initialization should do so lazily upon first use.
>>
>> I picked a low-hanging fruit in https://github.com/dlang/phobos/pull/7529 - there is no need at all to initialize and test pointers to function in Posix.
>>
>> Could a Windows engineer help with the Windows part? It's a bit more involved - the pointers to functions should be initialized upon first use in a Singleton manner, and atexit(WSACleanup) needs to be inserted right after the call to WSAStartup.
>>
>> (BTW, has wine support been maintained? It would be useful for such cases - I could test the Windows code without an installation.)
> 
> Microsoft offers free images for developers. They have a lifespan of 3 months IIRC, and come with Visual Studio / VSCode installed: https://developer.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/downloads/virtual-machines/

Noted, thanks!
June 17, 2020
On 6/14/20 2:53 PM, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
> Getting rid of static cdtors is a good goal for druntime and standard library. Modules that need initialization should do so lazily upon first use.
> 
> I picked a low-hanging fruit in https://github.com/dlang/phobos/pull/7529 - there is no need at all to initialize and test pointers to function in Posix.
> 
> Could a Windows engineer help with the Windows part? It's a bit more involved - the pointers to functions should be initialized upon first use in a Singleton manner, and atexit(WSACleanup) needs to be inserted right after the call to WSAStartup.

I needed to close that PR and it would be great if someone could pick it up. I don't have the time to set up a Windows platform. Would be glad to take a look over the PR if someone would like to adopt it.

As I noted in the PR, eliminating static cdtors is key to lean and mean executables on a pay-as-you-go basis.

June 17, 2020
On Wed, Jun 17, 2020 at 10:02:43PM -0400, Andrei Alexandrescu via Digitalmars-d wrote: [...]
> I needed to close that PR and it would be great if someone could pick it up.  I don't have the time to set up a Windows platform. Would be glad to take a look over the PR if someone would like to adopt it.
> 
> As I noted in the PR, eliminating static cdtors is key to lean and mean executables on a pay-as-you-go basis.

What about breaking it up into multiple PRs and get the non-breaking parts in first, while we wait for a Windows dev to step up to the plate? Some progress is better than none.


T

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June 18, 2020
On 18.06.20 04:02, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
> On 6/14/20 2:53 PM, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
>> Getting rid of static cdtors is a good goal for druntime and standard library. Modules that need initialization should do so lazily upon first use.
>>
>> I picked a low-hanging fruit in https://github.com/dlang/phobos/pull/7529 - there is no need at all to initialize and test pointers to function in Posix.
>>
>> Could a Windows engineer help with the Windows part? It's a bit more involved - the pointers to functions should be initialized upon first use in a Singleton manner, and atexit(WSACleanup) needs to be inserted right after the call to WSAStartup.
> 
> I needed to close that PR and it would be great if someone could pick it up. I don't have the time to set up a Windows platform. Would be glad to take a look over the PR if someone would like to adopt it.
> 
> As I noted in the PR, eliminating static cdtors is key to lean and mean executables on a pay-as-you-go basis.
> 

What about this? https://dlang.org/library/object/object.factory.html
ProtoObject?
June 17, 2020
On 6/17/20 10:42 PM, H. S. Teoh wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 17, 2020 at 10:02:43PM -0400, Andrei Alexandrescu via Digitalmars-d wrote:
> [...]
>> I needed to close that PR and it would be great if someone could pick
>> it up.  I don't have the time to set up a Windows platform. Would be
>> glad to take a look over the PR if someone would like to adopt it.
>>
>> As I noted in the PR, eliminating static cdtors is key to lean and
>> mean executables on a pay-as-you-go basis.
> 
> What about breaking it up into multiple PRs and get the non-breaking
> parts in first, while we wait for a Windows dev to step up to the plate?
> Some progress is better than none.

I tried that and was told to do the Windows part too.

June 17, 2020
On 6/17/20 11:00 PM, Timon Gehr wrote:
> On 18.06.20 04:02, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
>> On 6/14/20 2:53 PM, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
>>> Getting rid of static cdtors is a good goal for druntime and standard library. Modules that need initialization should do so lazily upon first use.
>>>
>>> I picked a low-hanging fruit in https://github.com/dlang/phobos/pull/7529 - there is no need at all to initialize and test pointers to function in Posix.
>>>
>>> Could a Windows engineer help with the Windows part? It's a bit more involved - the pointers to functions should be initialized upon first use in a Singleton manner, and atexit(WSACleanup) needs to be inserted right after the call to WSAStartup.
>>
>> I needed to close that PR and it would be great if someone could pick it up. I don't have the time to set up a Windows platform. Would be glad to take a look over the PR if someone would like to adopt it.
>>
>> As I noted in the PR, eliminating static cdtors is key to lean and mean executables on a pay-as-you-go basis.
>>
> 
> What about this? https://dlang.org/library/object/object.factory.html
> ProtoObject?

Yah, that'd need to be looked at too.
June 17, 2020
On Wed, Jun 17, 2020 at 11:46:55PM -0400, Andrei Alexandrescu via Digitalmars-d wrote:
> On 6/17/20 10:42 PM, H. S. Teoh wrote:
> > On Wed, Jun 17, 2020 at 10:02:43PM -0400, Andrei Alexandrescu via Digitalmars-d wrote: [...]
> > > I needed to close that PR and it would be great if someone could pick it up.  I don't have the time to set up a Windows platform. Would be glad to take a look over the PR if someone would like to adopt it.
> > > 
> > > As I noted in the PR, eliminating static cdtors is key to lean and mean executables on a pay-as-you-go basis.
> > 
> > What about breaking it up into multiple PRs and get the non-breaking parts in first, while we wait for a Windows dev to step up to the plate?  Some progress is better than none.
> 
> I tried that and was told to do the Windows part too.

What about use version(Windows) as a stop-gap measure for the time
being?


T

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